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The Greatest Scott Lobdell Stories Ever Told! – Voting

Here’s the latest of the daily voting threads for The Greatest ____ Stories Ever Told!

Our next creator up for voting is Scott Lobdell.

Lobdell is most famous for his work for Marvel’s mutant line of comics during the 1990s. He wrote Uncanny X-Men for years and eventually took over both X-Men books for awhile there. He created Generation X and wrote for X-Factor, as well. He had two separate (and incredibly distinct) runs on Alpha Flight. He brought the Fantastic Four back from Heroes Reborn. He wrote a number of original series for Wildstorm. He has spent the last few years working for a variety of comic book publishers and he has recently returned to the Big Two to write three ongoing titles in the New 52 (Superboy, Teen Titans and Red Hood and the Outlaws).

You have until 11:59 PM Pacific time, November 11th to vote for your top ten favorite comic book stories written or co-written by Scott Lobdell! Your choices will be revealed on November 12th.

You vote by sending your top ten choices to bcronin@comicbookresources.com (make the subject heading clear that it is about The Greatest Scott Lobdelln Stories Ever Told Voting) by that time (you send your votes by e-mail, not in the comments to this piece).

Be sure to first click here to read about the rules and guidelines for the voting (so you don’t vote for stuff that is ineligible, like you can’t vote for “Scott Lobdell’s Uncanny X-Men,” you have to pick a specific story or story arc – luckily, nearly all of Aaron’s work has been collected into easy-to-identify trade paperbacks, so use them as a guideline).

I’d prefer you not share your votes in the comments section – please let’s keep it a surprise until the results go up. You can share your votes then if you’d like!

Have fun voting and be sure to check back November 12th to see the results!

30 Comments

Never has the term “greatest” been so relative. Who’s next? Chuck Austen?

It would have to be one of those single issues of UXM where nothing happens. I loved those as a kid.

Know those cases where someone needs a person to vouch for him or put a good word on his behalf, but can’t find anyone? I went over Lobdell’s bibliography, and although I’ve read many of his publications, I could not find even one book/story to put on a “Greatest List”.

I appreciate the tough challenge, Brian, but I’m out.

Fourth Genesis, Generation X

*Third Genesis. hah woops

That Generation Next ( Age of Apocalypse) story. Literally heart wrenching story. I can not recommend this any more highly. Love it. One of my all time favorite stories.

I’m probably in the extreme minority, but I liked the first few issues of the Heroes Reborn Iron Man series he did with Whilce Portacio. I don’t think I could stomach them now, but at the time I remember being mildly entertained. Also, I’ll second Generation X and generation Next. Okay, there’s three…

@ Taco

Agreed! Generation Next is X-comics in perfection, provided by two creators in perfect creative synch with each other. I’d love to see Generation X #1-6 collected along with G Next #1-4 in one sizeable trade paperback.

@ Mike Loughlin

Agreed!!! Heroes Reborn: Iron Man #1 is one of the best Iron Man origin stories ever.

I’d also love to see Lobdell’s and Bachalo’s second collaborative run on Gen X collected. Please, Marvel, make it happen…

You know what? Those first few Lobdell/ Bachalo/ Buckingham reunion issues (from issue 17 until Al Vey took over as inker while Chris Bachalo wored through some stylistic changes) were pretty fun. That’s 4 on my list…

Those 3 great issues of Fantastic Four he wrote were pretty cool. I still wonder who the Iconoclast were and why they hated the Invisible woman so much. Not to mention Alan Davis’ artwork of the Ruined and Red Ghost and the Super Apes.:)

I happen to think Scott Lobdell is a very good, underrated writer. He did really nice work bridging the gap between Chris Claremont’s departure from and Alan Davis’ return to Excalibur. As far as his Uncanny X-Men work, coinsidering he was literally given the assignment at the last minute when Jim Lee & Co decided to go off and found Image, I think that Lobdell wrote some good stories under difficult circumstances. His later work on the X-books was to a certain degree hampered by heavy-handed editorial control.

Yeah, no voting for me. When thinking of good Scott Lobdell work nothing really comes to mind…

This was the funniest thing I’ve seen all day. I had to check to see if it was opposite day today or April 1st.

One story that comes to mind was from the 1991 Marvel Holiday Special, with Captain Ultra. It’s an amusing little tale.

C’mon, Scott hung out with Gilbert Gottfried, he can’t be all bad!

Scott Lobdell is the most underrated writer in comics. I’m not saying he’s Alan Moore, or even a Bendis. But he’s better than James Robinson or Stracynski. He’s just as good as Peter David, although David is more prolific.

-First Three FF issues with Davis (never had I been more heartbroken by a creative switch)
-Manifest Eternity (got it on a lark and was never more impressed with a randomly chosen buy)
-DD (though it sucked to see the volume end and then be overshadowed by Smiths run, these were good)
I’ve liked his Uncanny X-Men stuff, even though I’ve never been an “X” guy. Astonishing X-Men in the AoA was truly great and is responsible for Blink getting the noteriety she did. She was a “cool martyr” in her first appearance, but AoA showed us how cool she really “would have been”. I’ve really liked his Excalibur stuff. The Outlaws issue and the Spider-Man issue are personal favorites. Against all odds, I really took to his short return to the X-Men, right before Casey and Morrison started their runs, where he came in and just went to town (ie, killing Colossus, writing a great Cyclops/Corsair issue and wrapping up a major Magneto plot-Pres of Genosha)
-Even though its barely started, I’d really like to throw in his Superboy/Teen Titans stuff, as I am having a bunch of fun reading those two right now.

Yeah, I got nothing.

The Crazed Spruce

November 6, 2011 at 11:16 pm

I’ve always thought that Scott Lobdell was criminally underrated. His three issues of Fantastic Four were among my favourite issues of the series, and his X-Men work is much better than most people remember it being. (I blame Onslaught. The fallout from that story overshadowed all the goodwill the rest of his run earned him. And it’s funny how most of it landed on him, while the rest of the creative team emerged unscathed.)

I’m sure Lobdell has written something good at some point – but I haven’t read it.

Gen X beginning cemented me as a comics reader, Gen Next was amazingly powerful. I would also add the story where he brought Cecilia Reyes, Marrow, and Maggot onto the X-Men. That panel of Cecilia in the rain, and Marrow’s message carved into the wall resonnated with me for a long time. It really seemed to highlight the dark side of the reality of being different. Sure you have powers and a team, and maybe a killer robot or two might put a bomb in Cyclops’ chest, but in reality you still long to be normal or are so warped by being different you can end up in a really dark place.

I loved feeling that on those pages.

Did he originate the whole AOA story?

That’s because Onslaught was essentially “his” idea, so people blame him for it. What people don’t know is that marvel was planning on rebooting the FF, Avengers, iron Man, and Cap around the time Lobdell came up with the idea for Onslaught, and when it came time for the reboot, it was decided to use Scott’s big villain as the way to kill them off. Really, it’s Bob Harras’ fault, he’s the guy who forced Scott to take a villain he’d been setting up for an X-Men crossover and turn it into a line-wide cross-over. Other people started tinkering with the concept without his knowledge, which led to all the inconsistencies (even the great Mark Waid had a hand in this) in his portrayal.

If Scott could have developed the concept at his own pace instead of being told by marketing what to do, it would have been a great story. And on the whole it’s not bad, certainly much better than Fear Itself; most of the heat from fans comes from the fact that they killed off so many characters with it and then we got the underwhelming Heroes Reborn. The thing is, though, was that Iron Man, the FF, Cap and the Avengers had been driven so far into the ground before Onslaught that NO ONE was reading them, they’d been ruined. Iron Man was actually a huge step in quality post-Onslaught. This tells me that all the complaining about what the Onslaught crossover did to those characters is coming from people who WEREN’T EVEN READING THE BOOKS AT THE TIME.

Agree Matt Densmore, Agree.

Granted I was 13-17 years old for Scott Lobdell’s “Wonder Years” in the MU but looking back, I remember really enjoying a lot of his work. Even though I’ll debate the depth of Bob Harras’ involvement in plotting/writing a lot of his X-Men work (i.e. Harras was probably more the writer on most of that stuff.), I thought his X-Men stuff still had that willful abandon & innocence without some of the complex, esoteric elements that Claremont had become famous for at the time.

Back in the days when the X-Universe still had a sense of wonder, & every X-Man from Scott Summers down to Northstar wasn’t a cold-blooded, killing, Wolverine clone. Ah, wonder years indeed.

I really liked the issue of Uncanny X-Men right after Onslaught – Uncanny 337 where the team is reeling from everything that’s happened and Wolverine gives Professor X a pep talk and the team sits down to have breakfast. I used to love those quiet issues with lots of character interaction. The X-Men felt like a family. We don’t really see that anymore.

I second Curtis’ recommendation. That was definitely my favorite X-Men comic as a kid. I read it until the cover fell off and it just started to disintegrate. It didn’t even matter to me that I hadn’t read any of the Onslaught stuff, it made me want to go back and understand it; by making it a problem so big that super heroes had to take a break from adventuring he made Onslaught more compelling a villain than he ever was when he was “on screen.”

I think Uncanny X-Men #s 297 (X-Cutioner’s Song aftermath), 303 (death of Illyana), and 308 (Scott/Jean engagement) were all quite good individual issues.

But his two Age of Apocalypse minis, Astonishing X-Men and Generation Next, were both wonderful (and both featured art by two stars at the absolute top of their game– Joe Madureira and Chris Bachalo). The scene in Astonishing X-Men #4 when Holocaust is fighting Blink, and says something like “do you really think you’re faster than me, girl?” Then Blink drops him in an acid vat and says “My name is Blink. Who do you think is faster?” That was a great moment.

Days of Future Past is obviously the most influential alternate reality/timeline story in comics, but I’ll always believe Age of Apocalypse is the best. I also think it’s the best the X-titles have ever been since Claremont, even counting Morrison’s run. I think it could even be argued that it’s the only GREAT “mega-crossover” of the last twenty years. It was a 39 issue story, and all 39 issues served a purpose, felt like an important part of the whole, and had good art and writing.

Death of Illyana X-men #303 is in my top list. I really do think Lobdell was a great artist and writer underrated for many.

Teen Titans #1

Red Hood and the Outlaws #3

I havent read anything from him before but his three new DC titles are greatest

Lobdell was the hackiest hack of the hackiest era.

Someone above talks about his bridging the gap between Claremont’s run and Davis’s on Excalibur – basically some fill-in issues – ok, and what did he do when he took the book over from Davis?

He destroyed it. Was there editorial mandate to do so? Maybe. I really dunno. All I know is he went in and ripped that book and that cast of characters to shreds in like the first few issues. He undid 70 issues of work by two pros in just a few issues. It was amazing – probably even worse than what Louise Simonson did to New Mutants. Cerise suddenly being a Shiar war criminal and getting taken away in handcuffs will never not make me laugh. They ought to have just cancelled the book if they didn’t like it.

His Generation X was pointless and derivative. I mean with the sliding time scale, they’re all still pretty young – you’ve already had the original team, the second team (several versions), and the New Mutants – and now another team of young students? This of course opened the door to the endless streams of new young mutants and teams of mutants in training that have proliferated in the 2000s. Every writer gets to come in and introduce 50 horrible characters all at once that nobody’ll remember three years later.

So, I dunno. I only know him as an X-Men reader. He took Claremont’s run and buried it under mediocrity. He killed Illyana (which is actually perfect – the first horrible X-book inheritor/destroyer, Louise Simonson, had been the idiot who de-aged Illyana; it was fitting that Lobdell, who would do the same thing to two X-books that Simonson had done to New Mutants, would deliver the coup de grace to one of THE best and most beloved Claremont characters).

So anyway no. No love for this guy. I’m sure he’s a nice guy in real life and that’s fine, but I don’t like people who go out of their way to destroy things others have lovingly built over several years.

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