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The Abandoned An’ Forsaked – So Is She The Joker’s Daughter Or What?

Every week, we will be examining comic book stories and ideas that were not only abandoned, but also had the stories/plots specifically “overturned” by a later writer (as if they were a legal precedent). Click here for an archive of all the previous editions of The Abandoned An’ Forsaked. Feel free to e-mail me at bcronin@comicbookresources.com if you have any suggestions for future editions of this feature.

Today, as suggested by my pal, Bill Walko, we examine the mystery of the parentage of the Joker’s Daughter…

Enjoy!

The Joker’s Daughter first showed up in Batman Family #6, in the Robin feature written by Bob Rozakis..

She began appearing in other guises, like Catgirl, daughter of Catwoman…

Scarecrone, daughter of Scarecrow…

the Riddler’s Daughter…

the Penguin’s Daughter…

and eventually the truth is revealed in Batman Family #9…

So she moves over to Teen Titans, then written by Rozakis, and she meets her REAL father, Two-Face…

And we learn her history…

In the issue, she also decides to drop the Joker’s Daughter routine…

When that Teen Titans team ended, so, too, did her time in the DC mainstream. She next appeared roughly eight or so years ago at the wedding of Donna Troy and Terry Long, where Marv Wolfman not only abandons and forsakes the Two-Face idea, he also has her aged…

This sort of makes Dick Grayson a pretty dumb guy, no? “I never noticed she was way older than me. And way too old to be the daughter of Two-Face.”

That’s it for the abandoned and forsaked aspect of her character, but just because I know you folks love to get extra information on top of the actual purpose of the column, I’ll show what happened to her post-Crisis.

She appeared a few times and in more recent times, she was once again pushing the Joker’s Daughter routine (even though going by Duela Dent still)…

When Deathstroke put together an evil team of Titans, she joined up, but changed sides easily as she just wanted to be a member of a team of Titans! She’d prefer the good guys…

She next appeared in the first issue of Countdown to Final Crisis…

She is then hunted down and killed by a rogue Monitor…

You see, as it turns out, the Joker’s Daughter was actually from a different Earth in the Multiverse. Specifically, she came from an Earth where the Joker was a GOOD guy, known as the Jokester, enemy to Owlman…

Here, the Jokester learns of her identity…

So she was leaping in between her world and the “main” DC Earth, and she legitimately believed that she was the Joker’s Daughter because she WAS! In a way…

And then she was killed.

Thanks for the suggestion, Bill!

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she’ll be back!!

I think she did make some appearances in Batman Family or Detective after Teen Titans cancellation using the identity of the Queen of Spades IIRC.

Donna Troy must be coming up soon.

…and they say the Silver Age is convoluted and nonsensical.

SO….my first throught was April Fools! Really come on, a Harlequinn that predates the Harley Quinn we know and love, so I sought proof, and found the Duela Dent Wiki page, and thought pretty sneaky…creating a whole Deula Dent page, infact dozens of wiki’s out there have Duela Dent.

So either this is the the most elaborate april fools prank I’ve seen todate, or there actually was a Harleyquinn in the DCU for years, before Harley Quinzell became Harley Quinn II.

I don’t know I’m still thinking…April Fools on this, but maybe that makes me the April Fool.

Fredll Harlequin was also the name of a Golden Age villainess who fought the original Green Lantern.

Not sure if there are any other Harlequins (or variant spellings) in the DCU besides those three though.

The Jokester was the best thing to come out of Countdown to Infinite Crisis.
So of course they killed him issues after introducing him.
GOOD JOB DC

Fred, this character is not Harley Quinn nor in any way connected with Harley Quinn. There have actually been two or three characters to use the name Harlequin before Harley Quinn was created.

i have just fiished the second volume of secret avengers, the change in the status if fu man chu over the years would work well here

While I’m a bit dubious about the connection to Two-Face (and she definitely wouldn’t work with DC now that their universe is essentially the world of Logan’s Run in any meaningful sense), when I originally read the wedding story I thought that no way she was remotely that old in previous stories. I have a soft spot for the character and think it’s sad that the writers of DC never figured out a way to make her work long term. The final answer they came up with was decent, but they killed her off so quickly after for the answer to have much meaning.

“So of course they killed him issues after introducing him.”

As if death (in comics) was, like, permanent or something. :)

Great article, Brian!

I never got the impression Duela was meant to be older than her teammates, though. At Donna Troy’s wedding, Dick says he realized she was “too old to be Two Face’s Daughter…” This was back in the days when Batman (etc.) were supposed to be around 30 years old, putting only 10 years between Bruce and Dick. So, by that logic, Two-Face wasn’t old enough to have a teenaged daughter (that was the complaint leveled at Bob Rozakis).

The idea that Duela was too old was wrong– because that only served to make Two-Face even OLDER! So Dick’s deduction was that Two-Face wasn’t old enough to marry and sire a teenage daughter when he stopped to do the math.

The one part missing here is how she was erased from continuity Post-Crisis, being erased from the new Titans history as detailed in SECRET ORIGINS ANNUAL. Phil Jimenez brought her back for a memorable cameo in TEAM TITANS pre-Zero Hour, where she was a mental patient. Here, this version was “too old to be a Teen Titan”, which I think came from a misunderstanding from her wedding appearance and reinforced the idea that “Duela was much older than her teammates”, which she never was.

Her eventual origin on Earth 3 was clever and combined many of her previous conceits. I liked it– too bad they killed her off at around the same time.

TroyToTheMaxxExxxtreme

April 1, 2012 at 8:33 am

I’m with Johnny Bacardi on this one. Even when summarized, I am lost.

Ah, here we go, from Duela’s page at http://www.titanstower.com/monitor/?p=7430

Bob Rozakis, TEEN TITANS writer and creator of Joker’s Daughter: “It didn’t take too long to decide whose daughter she would turn out to be. After all, the only married villain was Two-Face. I convinced Julie (and associate editor E. Nelson Bridwell, the acknowledged keeper of DC’s historical consistency) that Harvey and Gilda Dent had a daughter, that Harvey had been disappointed because she wasn’t twins, and that they’d named her Duela. I even explained away the fact that she should have been about 9 years old – after all, Dick had aged from 12 to 19 by that point in his career – by inventing “selective aging” in a subsequent letter column. [For those who think Hypertime is hokey, you would have had a field day with that theory.]”

“[...] Well, DC owns the character, so she’s whoever they decide she is today (subject to change with the next writer who uses her). But as far as I’m concerned, Two-Face is her father, his ex-wife Gilda is her mother, and she aged eighteen years to Dick’s seven. It’s comic books, after all.”

So, you see how Marv & George came up with the “too old to be Two Face’s Daughter…” They just the joke to an extreme…

Same page, George’s quote on using her at Donna’s wedding: “I told Marv I was going to put the Harlequin in there because I knew the Harlequin was one character that Marv definitely wanted to disavow ever existed. And I said, ‘No, no, no, the greater challenge is to try to explain why this character is invalid, like maybe explain that she’s not the Harlequin.’ Which is what we ended up doing – saying she’s not Two-Face’s daughter, but not saying anything else beyond that. Marv was not fascinated with this, because it wasn’t his idea, it was my idea, and I didn’t want to put him in a bind he didn’t want to be in. But he also doesn’t take the easy cop-out by saying, ‘She didn’t exist.’”

There have been four Harlequins before Harley Quinn came along.

Molly Mayne, the Golden Age version and the origin, was a foe of Alan Scott who actually turned out to be enamored with him and was just trying to get his attention. She helped with his superheroing a couple of times, and eventually the two got married.

There’s Duela.

There’s Marcie Cooper, who stole the Harlequin name from Molly and fought against Infinity Inc. Marcie was responsible for the death of the original Star-Spangled Kid, and she did so without even getting her hands dirty.

The fourth didn’t get a name, and she only appeared once, fighting Alan Scott. Alan doesn’t even know if she was real or a hallucination.

There are two other Harlequins to mention: In Kingdom Come, Alex Ross created a brand new version of the character who also called herself the Joker’s Daughter, but she was merely one of many following the Joker’s influence after his death. Jill Thompson was the model for the character. The second was an unused character planned for Infinity Inc, a male version who would’ve also been homosexual.

Hey, you forgot to mention her appearance in the TEEN TITANS “possible future” storyline in which she was a villain again and a future, adult Tim Drake as Batman killed her in very cold blood… (TT #17 if I’m not mistaken)

Man, I really wanted to like it because it kept flirting with subject matter I enjoy, but Countdown was just a terrible, terrible series.

randypan the goatboy

April 1, 2012 at 10:22 am

Wow …smells like silverage crap to me

“Wow …smells like silverage crap to me”

Well, skunk cabbage smells like a skunk but isn’t. Duela Dent’s career is entirely post-Silver Age.

I Heart Catman

April 1, 2012 at 10:33 am

man, countdown was one of the biggest pieces of crap i ever bought. i really felt let down. and nothing topped that epic-fail… but the 2nd half of brightest day and the final few issues of flashpoint come pretty close.

You forgot, Jude Deluca, that Marcie also turned Todd Rice gay. Too bad Duela wasn’t part of Wildstorm, so that she’d be guaranteed a place in the ‘new’ DCU. Or at least there ought to be a version to correspond with Damian. Too Much Face, perhaps.

Wait. This is awesome. Why have I never heard of this character before, because she is awesome.

;Well, skunk cabbage smells like a skunk but isn’t. Duela Dent’s career is entirely post-Silver Age.

DC was so behind the times for a while I think of the SIlver Age as lasting an extra 10 years for them.

The only Harlequin for me was Alan Scott’s wife

There’s a little Easter Egg on that first splash page – mystery writer “Christine Ariadne.” Agatha Christie wrote some novels featuring a ficticious female mystery writer – Ariadne Oliver, basically her alter-ego. So either Rozakis, Novick or McLaughlin threw in this little homage.

In other news, in those Teen Titan pages, why is Duela’s mouth ALWAYS wide open?

@T

I’ll say. They couldn’t have been less bothered with the death of Gwen Stacy to lose their campiness and keep up.

V

April 1, 2012 at 11:19 am

@T

I’ll say. They couldn’t have been less bothered with the death of Gwen Stacy to lose their campiness and keep up.
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V, the 1966 to 1968 Adam West show remained in syndication for years into the 1970′s and beyond, showing on UHF channels. Also, so did George Reeves Superman show, which grew very silly in its later years.

V

Not only that, but Super Friends ran from 1973 to 1985. on ABC on Saturday monrings.

So that, explains why they did not change their style until the early 1980′s.

Fun piece. I’ve never had more than a peripheral awareness of Duela and her backstory, but the details were interesting to read. One thing, though: the marriage of Donna Troy and Terry Long happened a lot longer than “roughly eight or so years ago.” Don’t know when Teen Titans 47 came out, but I’m guessing that was supposed to be “later” not “ago.” (Sorry, the former editor in me couldn’t resist.)

and i thought donna troys origin was a mess. until i came across duele the jokers daughter from first dc saying she was two faces daughter then they switch to earth three version of the joker kid then going so far as dick saying that she was too old to be two faces kid. sadly dc did a favor by taking her out in final crisis. spared her from winding up having to have some writer have some one have to clean up the mess of the joker’s daughter.

Never cared for this character as she struck me as hokey in the extreme. And I REALLY hate the “selective aging” concept. I’m okay with characters aging at different rates in different books, but buying Two-Face having a teenage daughter while Dick Grayson only ages 6-7 years? No. Comic book time can be wonky enough without doing stuff like that on top of it. I don’t think it’s too much to ask to have time proceed at the same rate for all the Batman characters.

Duela Dent is such an odd character. She is sort of fun in cameo role, like the one Wolfman & Perez cast her in, but she really does not hold up under any kind of sustained consideration. It is really odd that the more recent artists tried to go “hot” with her character design. It seems antithetical to her whole conception.

“DC was so behind the times for a while I think of the SIlver Age as lasting an extra 10 years for them.”

I can dig that, though 1970s Titans, while still very silly was very different stylistically than official Silver Age Titans stories. Can you groove to that beat, daddio?

Billy Bissette

April 1, 2012 at 7:17 pm

I’d run into Duela stories a few times, and it seemed like a mess then.

Now, it seems worse. When randypan the goatboy compared it to the Silver Age, I think he was accidentally insulting the Silver Age. The Silver Age had some silly stuff, but it wasn’t as much of a mess as this. Particularly with the repeated seemingly intentional reversals.

I think I remember seeing a girl named Harlequin who looked like a female Joker in the old X-Men/Teen Titans crossover with Darkseid and Phoenix.. Or did I just imagine that?

I was a 100% Marvel kid at the time, so she (and frankly, several other of the Titans) just seemed like perfect examples of the unhip lameness and lack of originality that made DC so much less cool than Marvel (to me, at that time). Like having a giant letter “T” for a base. How about a giant “L”?

Also notable was the strong contrast in style in that comic’s house ads for DC and Marvel. Marvel’s was confident, casual, hip, funny and dynamic, and a nice example of cartooning, while DC’s managed to be slick and stodgy at the same time, trying to promote 3 fairly lame looking comics that didn’t seem very original, with the laughable headline about “We’re on the move!”, oh, swell! I guess they were still trying to play catch-up.

I didn’t start reading DC until after the Crisis, and largely gave up on Marvel in the 90′s.

Ganky: Yes, I’m afraid you imagined that, or got it confused with something else. Neither she nor anyone by that description appeared in the X-Men/Teen Titans crossover. The only Titans to appear in that comic were Starfire, Raven, Wonder Girl, Robin, Changeling, Cyborg and Kid Flash.

I knew almost nothing of this character before this, though I do remember the Jill-Thompson-looking Joker’s Daughter from “Kingdom Come”. I actually kind of like her. I think the reboot would be a great chance to start her with a clearer back-story, if only for the so-obvious-I’m-surprised-no-one’s-written-it story where someone tries to hire Harley Quinn for mercenary work and accidentally hires Harlequin.

The selective aging stuff sounds like what they do on soap operas, so that there are virtually no kids aged, say 6-14, and a kid that was born in 2002 is now a college aged kid.

Just the idea of any of Batman’s villains having a teenage daughter just doesn’t work.

And if Duela (what a stupid name!) is that old, that means that Harvey was obsessed with 2s a lot earlier than (I think) we’d seen before. Was Harvey’s origin different enough at that point that he’d been nuts well before the acid hit him?

I have that book with the Jokester stuff. It’s one of the longest titles ever, like Countdown Special: The Search for Ray Palmer: Crime Syndicate: Electric Bugaloo. I may not be remembering that precisely.

@Ganky/buttler: I know Darkseid was in that XMen/TT xover, but were the Female Furies? There’s at least one or 2 of them that sorta kinda look like Duela here (Mad Harriet, maybe).

For more gooder Rozakis stuff, check out ‘Mazing Man and Hero Hotline. And let’s tell DC to reprint it!

Nope, no Female Furies. Not even Granny. Besides Darkseid and the aforementioned Titans, it was just some Parademons, Deathstroke, and Metron. That about covers it from the DC side.

There’s a little Easter Egg on that first splash page – mystery writer “Christine Ariadne.” Agatha Christie wrote some novels featuring a ficticious female mystery writer – Ariadne Oliver, basically her alter-ego. So either Rozakis, Novick or McLaughlin threw in this little homage.

Or these could just be separate, non-related references to Ariadne of the Greek mythology, since “Ariadne’s thread” is a common metaphor in mystery stories.

Who drew the 2 pages (and what are they from) after this sentence:

“When Deathstroke put together an evil team of Titans, she joined up, but changed sides easily as she just wanted to be a member of a team of Titans! She’d prefer the good guys…”

Thats some nice art.

That’s Al Barrionuevo.

After Teen Titans was cancelled she appeared as Duela Dent in Batman Family #19 & then she appeared in Detective Comics #482 & 483 as Card Queen.

Man, except for the Dial H For Hero kids has anyone had more alternate identities then Duela Dent?

Tuomas, it was admitted in a letter column that Christine Ariadne was an homage to Agatha Christie. Also Ariadne’s detective character was named Ulysses Pylate which is similar to Hercule Poirot.

Wasn’t it revealed that the Joker was Anarky’s father?

It is really odd that the more recent artists tried to go “hot” with her character design. It seems antithetical to her whole conception.

It doesn’t seem odd when you take into consideration that modern artists as whole don’t have much subtlety or nuance, they can only conceptualize in broad, exaggerated strokes. Like if you look at Kirby’s Fantastic Four, The Thing was muscular but shorter than Reed Richards. Now an artist without thinking will make The Thing only slightly smaller than the Hulk. He’s strong, so he must automatically have cookie cutter strong man proportions.

If a character is fat like the Blob, he’s got to be drawn way fatter than we’ve ever seen him before.

So likewise, if a female character has an attractive physique, she must be drawn as a total sexpot. I’d be more shocked if she WASN’T drawn that way.

The thing that makes no sense about Wolfman aging Duela is that she already was too old to be Two-Face’s daughter in her original appearance, since it’s implied she was born after he became Two-Face (I can’t imagine a pre-Two Face Harvey Dent being double-obsessed enough to name a daughter Duela and be disappointed she wasn’t a set of twins). Like Brian says, that just makes Dick look even dumber.

Funny how thanks to DC Comics, “Harlequin” has become a feminine name– when for centuries it referred to a male clown/servant of the commedia dell’arte. (Harlequin being the Anglo/French equivalent of the Italian Arlecchino.)

DC’s Silver Age, like Marvel’s, didn’t arrive at the same time in every book. (What would be the first distinctively non-Silver Age issue of Fantastic Four, for example? Or, say, Daredevil or Iron Man?) The O’Neil/Adams Batman is very Bronze Age, for example, and that stuff turns up around 1970 and 71. Ditto their GL/GA. And I’d say the Legion of Super-Heroes was solidly Bronze Age in style by 1973 or so. And then there’s unmistakably Bronze Age debuts, like Swamp Thing and Black Lightning, or the non-superhero genre stuff. There, DC was sometimes Bronzer than Marvel; compare DC’s western revival, which gave us Jonah Hex’s spaghettified stylings and Bat Lash’s impersonation of Bret Maverick to Marvel’s rather limp reprints of its Silver Age cowboys. Even this Titans iteration strikes me as sort of Bronze Age when you compare it to the Bob Haney material that came before it.

The weird thing at DC — and, less so, at Marvel — was that the Bronze Age stuff we now think of as distinct from 1960s campiness often wasn’t. Steves Engelhart and Gerber, Bronze Age giants of Marvel, had plenty of campy oddities in their stories that would have fit just fine into a Silver Age JLA story. Likewise, the revived Teen Titans evidenced such Bronze Age hallmarks as the diversification of the roster, casually murderous villains, and tacit retcons like Two-Face marrying and having a kid after his scarring accident. Similarly, the conversational continuity-dropping — exemplified by Donna mentioning Speedy’s arc in GL/GA, or Duela’s entire gimmick and origin — is distinct from the Silver Age’s more formalized use of either full flashbacks or bare editorial notes to join up a character’s chronology of appearances. Silver Age comics explain the fact that they have a continuity to their readers; Bronze Age comics take it mostly for granted. All of that Bronze sits alongside the nutty elements of perhaps tarnished Silver that Brian has highlighted here.

The weird thing about DC’s Bronze Age is how much of the Silver Age survived even into the 1980s. On some books, like Superman’s and Batman’s titles, people like O’Neil were replaced by other writers who tried to blend Bronze Age characterization and violence together with Silver Age plotting and gimmicks. See David V. Reed (actually 1950s writer David Levine) on the later 1970s Batman titles, or Cary Bates’s Superman when Eliot S! Maggin wasn’t there to ground the material a little.

I like the concept of her disguising herself as the daughter of the Bat-Villains.

Funny how thanks to DC Comics, “Harlequin” has become a feminine name– when for centuries it referred to a male clown/servant of the commedia dell’arte. (Harlequin being the Anglo/French equivalent of the Italian Arlecchino.)

I think you’re way overestimating the effect of DC comics on the mainstream culture outside of comics. I think outside comics the term Harlequin means what it’s always meant before DC characters started using the name.

Sure, if by “what it’s always meant” you mean cheap romance novels.

I was exposed to the name Harlequin by means of Michael Moorcock’s Jerry Cornelius novels.

Ian: Was it the name of a hallucinogen? I just assume any Jerry Cornelius reference ultimately has to do with drugs.

Ian: Was it the name of a hallucinogen? I just assume any Jerry Cornelius reference ultimately has to do with drugs.

Moorcock in several places explicitly states that he is using his cast of characters from the Cornelius novels much as the commedia troupes used the stock characters: placing them in different stories with no narrative continuity between one and the other: thus one Cornelius story could be a sci-fi spy adventure and another could just be a naturalistic story about a rock musician living in Londo, identifying Jerry as being Harlequin at first (becoming Pierrot with Una Persson taking over the Harlequin role) and Catherine as Columbine, and even weaves in a narrative of the Cornelius siblings as teenagers performing Harlequinade shows as street theatre.

So it operates on a few different levels.

Oh yeah! That does ring a bell now that you mention it. It’s been a good 22 years or so since I read those books, so it’s a little hazy.

“She next appeared roughly eight or so years ago at the wedding of Donna Troy and Terry Long, where Marv Wolfman not only abandons and forsakes the Two-Face idea, he also has her aged…”

Wait, that can’t be right, can it?

I was just the right age that this is one of the first stories I remember reading across several books in real time, and the first new character I really saw introduced. There were enough reprints and digests and tabloids and so on in the 70s that I knew all the major Silver Age heroes and villains, as well as a lot of the Earth-2/ Golden Age characters, but as far as I was concerned they had all always been around. I certainly didn’t understand that, say, Grodd was a lot newer than Joker; they were the enemies of core Justice Leaguers, had been around since before I was born, etc. Same for Batgirl and Robin; they’d both always been there as far as I knew.

So I can’t help having nostalgic affection for the introduction of Duela. It was a lot of fun at the time.

If she seems awfully changeable, it’s understandable. What else would you expect from the Calendar Man’s daughter?

Or these could just be separate, non-related references to Ariadne of the Greek mythology, since “Ariadne’s thread” is a common metaphor in mystery stories.

Maybe, but “Ulysses Pylate” seems like such a clear nod to Christie’s Hercule Poirot, I agree with dantecat that the reference is likely to Ariadne Oliver.

“Man, except for the Dial H For Hero kids has anyone had more alternate identities then Duela Dent?”

The Roach

Andy E. Nystrom, good one! Forgot all about the Roach. Heck, I think he had more identities in one issue alone.

Butler & Travis: Yup, that was a misplaced memory. Not sure where I saw Harlequin before, but it was probably in the 80s-90s somewheres. She looked more or less like the big panel above where she announces her name as Harlequin, with the quartered costume and big collar but more feminine looking, and it was just a walk-on part.

It was towards the beginning of an issue, indoors at the HQ of a group of heroes, and someone mentions that she is or was dating Robin. Ring a bell, anyone?

I have never collected Teen Titans, though I may have borrowed a few issues from a friend when I borrowed his copies of “Crisis On Infinite Earths” over a decade after it came out. Could this brief appearance have been from Crisis then? It sure seems to have stuck in my head for something I only casually read once. Maybe it was from a Bat-Book right after Dick first became Nightwing?

Also, Brian, I must state again how much more helpful it would be if you could mention the year that these stories come out, with all the other info you provide, just throw a few digits in there man.. please?

Ganky:

You are thinking of the classic Detective Comics issue “Deadshot Ricochet” by Englehart and Rogers (1970′s). Bruce and Dick are training in the Batcave at the beginning. During their break Bruce mentions that he hears that Dick has been hanging out with Harlequin and Wonder Girl a lot these days, and a big picture of both ladies is above their heads montage-style in the panel.

Ok, his post is gone…. But I agree with Eric. The kiiling off of Red Devil/Kid Devil, who was one of the only good thing abouts Teen titans at the time (Blue Beetle was the only other good thing – and when they had their red/blue teem up), was a total waste. Some answers on it would be great. :)

We always thought of The Joker as a eunuch. Besides he was sterilized in Arkham, right?

Two quick facts about The Jpker’s Daughter/Harlequin…

1) DC recently released a Manga statue of The Jpker’s Daughter which was way cool. This woman in the mis-identified photo has based her costume on it:

9th photo down:
Caption: Ame-Comi Joker – unbelievable! You win all!
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=40012

2) During the DC Explosion back in ’78 (or there-abouts), Harlequin was planned to be the back up feature in The Vixen’s series starting with issue #2. Scripts for issues 2 & 3 exist and I for one would love to see them.

But the chances of that are slim. Scripts for Secret Society #17 & 18 also exist but DC didn’t include them in the recent hard cover so the odds that the Harlequin scripts will surface in a Joker’s Daughter collection are close to zero.

But I can dream, can’t I? :)

[...] Duela Dent is primarily known as the Joker’s Daughter post-Crisis, but pre-Crisis also claimed herself to be the daughter of Scarecrow, Riddler, Two-Face and Penguin. Before the New 52, Duela was constantly on both sides of the Hero/Villain spectrum, briefly joining the Teen Titans and changed sides over and over again. Her final appearance before the DC relaunch was during “Countdown,” when it was discovered she came from an alternate Earth. For more details, be sure to check out Comics Should Be Good’s Abandoned An’ Forsaked on the subject. [...]

You missed the best part of her post-Crisis appearences; starting with the Every Titan Ever storyline in JLA/Titans (1999), she was portrayed as a delusional woman who genuinely believed herself to be the daughter of whatever supervillain was uppermost in her mind at the time, regardless of how much sense it made. (“I’m the daughter of *Doomsday!*”) The rest of “Who’s Your Daddy?” plays off this concept, since she doesn’t *stick* to claiming she’s the Joker’s Daughter.

2 things.1 the arkham knight is probly Thomas Wayne.jr bman’s older brother. that why you hear Bruce’s dad in the preview Thomas Wayne.sr. 2 who here would play a game made by Rocksteady about the Jokester and other Earth 3 characters like Owlman,Duel Dent,Three Face,and Enigma or I like to call him Riddlemaster?

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