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The Line it is Drawn #86 – Classic Paintings, Comic Book Style

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Now on to the bit!

So every week, I ask a question here. You reply to it on our Twitter page (just write @csbg with your reply) and our blog sketch artists will each pick one of your suggestions and I will post them here every week. So every week you will have a new question and you will see the choices picked from the previous week. Here is an archive of all the previous editions of The Line It Is Drawn!

To qualify, you have to be following us when you reply – so go follow us and then give your answer to the following question/challenge (All suggestions due by 6:00 AM Pacific, Friday, April 20th).

The topic is…

What if ___ and ____ had a baby? Name two comic book characters and our artists will draw their offspring/gene splicing! Idea courtesy of our own Axel Medillin!

Read on for the sketches that came about courtesy of the last question/challenge!

Comic book characters mashed up with classic paintings!

Enjoy!

I’ll put them in alphabetical order based on the name of the Twitter user who made the suggestion.

All copyright and trademarks of the following characters are held by their respective owners!

bdbdbdbd, dranj70 and dc2omniverse suggested:

Black Canary on Edvard Munch’s The Scream.

Yukinori Xum drew this one. Here is his website.

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dc2omniverse suggested:

Jocasta in one of the Sexy Robot series paintings by Sorayama Hajime.

Axel Medellin drew this one. His website is here.

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DJStinky suggested:

Ingres’ “Odalisque” featuring Wolverine. PLEASE?

Nick Perks is the artist for this one. Here is his website.

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kevinsmithj suggested:

Wolverine in Self portrait with bandaged ear – van Gogh.

Sean McFarland is the artist for this one. Here is his website.

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Kholdstare21 suggested:

Batman in “Sweet Dreams Baby!” by Lichtenstein.

Nick Perks is also the artist for this one. Here is his website.

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Kholdstare21 suggested:

Cyclops and Jean Grey in “Forget it! Forget Me” by Lichtenstein.

Nick Perks is also the artist for this one. Here is his website.

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therealAstrozac suggested:

The Flash in Warhol’s Eight Elvises

Josh Gowdy drew this one. His website is here.

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therealAstrozac suggested:

Aquaman in Roy Lichtenstein’s Drowning Girl

John Trumbull drew this one. Here is his website.

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therealAstrozac suggested:

Darkseid in Francis Bacon’s “Study after Velázquez’s Portrait of Pope Innocent X”

Nick Perks is also the artist for this one. Here is his website.

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therealAstrozac suggested:

The Joker and Harley Quinn in American Gothic

Bill Walko drew this one. His website is here.

WickedPistons suggested:

The Son of Man with Power Girl.

Cynthia “Thea” Rodgers drew this one. Her website is here.

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For the sake of discussion, let’s say it is me who suggested the following three:

Buffy, Galadriel, Number Six, and Hermione as Mucha’s Precious Stones.

Phillip Sevy drew this one. Here is his website.

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Batman cast in the Last Supper.

Phillip Sevy also drew this one. Here is his website.

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Norman Rockwell’s The Tattoo Artist with Optimus Prime

Marco D’Alfonso drew this one. Here is his website.

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Wowsa, wowsa, wowsa! A ton of great art! Mucho thanks to our artists!

Now you all make suggestions for next week!

63 Comments

Great, great stuff.

Brian, any chance you can add the credits for the original artists that Lichtenstein ripped off to create his works? Just an idea. I think it’s somehow fitting to have those works reclaimed by the comics community in the way they are here.

D’oh, I so totally suggest Joker & Harley in American Gothic also

Actually, now that I’ve looked into it a little bit, it might be harder to attribute these than usual. David Barsalou’s Deconstructing Lichtenstein site usually has the info, but for these three he appears to have only identified the artist for “Drowning Girl” so far, which apparently was Tony Abruzzo (from Secret Hearts #83 according to wikipedia).

For “Forget It!” he has found the original panel, but no attribution and I’m afraid I don’t recognize the original artist either. No artist identified for “Sweet Dreams” either.

Anyway, a lot of good stuff this week. I particularly like Phillip Sevy’s version of Precious Stones.

I think of that character as Caprica Six, and Number Six as being the Prisoner– am I off-base?

Enjoyed all of these but the Lichtensteins the least– all the rest have more entertaining friction between subject and style. The idea for the Warhol Flash was inspired; Black Canary and Darkseid pictures are both fantastic.

My girlfriend asks, “why are they showing the originals? These are famous works”.

After viewing this, I recognized 2 pieces. This is why the originals were shown.

Jake Earlewine

April 18, 2012 at 8:09 pm

Instead of viewing goofy super-hero drawings that were quickly thrown together to parody Lichtenstein’s rip-offs, I would have preferred to have seen Lichtenstein’s thefts beside the original comic panels that he stole from.

I know some of the original comics panels were drawn by Irv Novick, but I’d like to know all of the original artists that Lichtenstein looted and pillaged.

This site should please you, Jake: http://davidbarsalou.homestead.com/LICHTENSTEINPROJECT.html

I should say, for the record, that I’m NOT a Lichtenstein fan, and become less and less of one as the years go by. I chose the Aquaman idea because I thought it was funny and because it was a nice breather after last week’s 11 character Avengers/X-Men piece.

The Lichtenstein pieces aren’t very inspired, but the Wolverine Odalisque is phenomenal (save for the lack of hair)

Fucking love that Sharkticon tattoo.

American Gothamic, Optimus Prime Rockwellized, the Darkseid one, the Cyclops/Jean Grey one, and the Last Supper ones were my favs this week!

WOW. Everyone really went all out this week. I won’t pick a favorite (but it’s either Marco’s or Phillip’s – they are BEAUTIFUL).
Am I right to read a post-feminist irony in Thea’s? “Huh? There’s an apple in front of her face? Oh yeah, I hadn’t noticed…”

One of the bits in my upcoming book is a compare and contrast of Lichtenstein with the original panels he used for his paintings.

Oh, now I HAVE to buy your book, huh? Just to see if I’m justified in thinking Lichtenstein is an a-hole or not.

A bunch of nice pieces this week.

Phillip did 2 very nice pieces, in 2 differing styles.

Sean’s Wolverine has a nice subtle bit that’s been growing on me (ahem, pun unintended), since even if Wolvey cuts off his ear, it’ll grow right back. Which means that we need a totally emo Wolverine series set in 19th century France, where Logan keeps pining over lost love, sending body parts to his exes, and the bits keep growing back.

I believe that the title of Thea’s is “How do you like them apples?”

Oh, and have fun at the Boston Comic Con this weekend, Bill. Wish I could be there too!

Great stuff. I was fortunate enough to see The Scream and Warhol’s Elvis Presley screen print at Sotheby’s in London this week . This reminds me….

For art fans in or near New York from 27 April to 2 May, Sotheby’s have the The Scream, the Elvis print and other impressionist & modern art on public display before a big sale.

It’s an opportunity to see the only privately owned version of The Scream before it’s sold from one collector to another. The same applies to all the other work on show before they vanish into private collections. Also, it’s your only chance to see The Scream on US soil as the other three Screams are in Norwegian museums and, the chances are, they will never leave Norway because they are uninsurable.

All the paintings have estimates and that Warhol print can be yours for $30-$50 million.

Wow– I don’t think I want to pick out any faves. Great work all round guys (and gal)!

Am I alone in thinking that the caption in the “Sweet Dreams Baby” one should be “Papa Spank!”? Or has that run its course now?

Fantastic work from everyone this week…as always.

These are all fantastic! I especially love the four Muchas.

I was a bit late to this one – I recently did a Captain America mash-up of Caspar David Friedrich’s “Wanderer Above The Sea Of Fog”, for all you German romantic painter fans…

http://steveandrew.deviantart.com/#/d4px7fg

The Mucha imitation looks cool, but I have no idea who “Number Six” is, and the other three aren’t even comic book characters.

(I’m sure there have been comics made with each of them, but you know what I mean.)

Classic Art and Comic Book Art? Oh this can’t end well. XD

Black Canary on Edvard Munch’s The Scream: Curiously this was the first painting I thought about when I heard about this week’s theme. But somehow I don’t think Canary fits in well. Her scream is a power, not a manifestation of despair. Nice art, though.

Jocasta in one of the Sexy Robot series paintings by Sorayama Hajime: Why the gun? Is this some kind of “let’s balance the sexism with violence because that’s empowering” thing? I find guns more offensive than nudity, personally. (Also, the original is kinda creepy.) VERY well drawn however.

Ingres’ “Odalisque” featuring Wolverine. PLEASE?: This wasn’t as bad as I expected. But, really? Wolverine? SO many other characters would have fit this better. Still, fair to have the cheesecake balanced with some beefcake, I guess.

Wolverine in Self portrait with bandaged ear – van Gogh.: Oh I get it. He cut off his own ear with his claws. Har har. Not. Besides, he regenerates.

Batman in “Sweet Dreams Baby!” by Lichtenstein: Oh look, an actual Comic Book Art Painting! Though I don’t think Batman’s ever been THAT wordy. Nice anyway.

Cyclops and Jean Grey in “Forget it! Forget Me” by Lichtenstein: Oooh SO true. My favorite (so far).

The Flash in Warhol’s Eight Elvises: Eeh, this doesn’t impress me for some reason. Maybe because Flash and afterimages are such a given.

Aquaman in Roy Lichtenstein’s Drowning Girl: Err, Aquaman can’t drown? Besides, Topo is an OCTOPUS. Why is Aquaman pining for it instead of Mera?

Darkseid in Francis Bacon’s “Study after Velázquez’s Portrait of Pope Innocent X”: I like this one, pretty clever use of the Omega Beans. (But shouldn’t Darkseid’s throne be at least half visible?)

The Joker and Harley Quinn in American Gothic: Fun-nee. Again, Walko wins me over with his art style.

The Son of Man with Power Girl: This is another one that seems to have no point other than sheer cheesecake. Many other characters could have fit this better than PG.

Buffy, Galadriel, Number Six, and Hermione as Mucha’s Precious Stones: Ok, art-wise, these are definitely the *best* this week.
Batman cast in the Last Supper: No. Just no.

Norman Rockwell’s The Tattoo Artist with Optimus Prime: This is the most clever one this week. :D

Hey, that wasn’t as bad as I expected. Quite good in fact. Our artists are vER talented. Congratulations and thanks for sharing.

Darkseid is my favourite. And thanks for the link Steve Andrew; the ‘Wanderer’ is one of my favourite paintings, so to see Cap astride it was fab!

Holy Cow. How good can you get!

I was so tempted to make the caption of my “Scream” piece “Hidden… Island… Lake!” — but then who would actually get that?

Xum

Batman in “Sweet Dreams Baby!” by Lichtenstein: Oh look, an actual Comic Book Art Painting! Though I don’t think Batman’s ever been THAT wordy. Nice anyway.

The dialogue is a quote from Dark Knight Returns, Sijo.

Aquaman in Roy Lichtenstein’s Drowning Girl: Err, Aquaman can’t drown? Besides, Topo is an OCTOPUS. Why is Aquaman pining for it instead of Mera?

Topo’s funnier.

Yes… I wasn’t sure what dialogue to use in “Sweet Dreams Baby” and the grim quote from The Dark Knight Returns seemed the sharpest contrast with the 60s Batman style “POW!” If anyone has a better suggestion let me know

I personally the American Gothic with Harley and Joker doesn’t really belong with the rest of the great works here, and seems pretty cliched. and lazily executed. It completely ignored the realistic look and copped out going with the cartoony Bruce Timm art direction, whereas all of the other artworks in the selection at least made attempts to do homage to the original art style.

Would’ve loved a Last Supper with the Bat Family (or disciples, really) rather than the villains. Jason as Judas would be perfect!

Can we all get together to buy Sijo a sense of humor?

I think you totally missed the point of having Peej be the subject of the revamp, Sijo; as perhaps the most objectified character in comics (“most of the time — they ain’t looking at my face”) dehumanizing her with the apple (Magritte, right?) and over-emphasizing her figure stresses the original point of the piece even more.

Liked Xum’s Canary piece (“Not Mike GREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLL!!!!” might work for a caption), the American Gothamic, Optimus Prime getting detailed and Darkseid. I got the humor of “Superfriends” Aquaman in an such an overwrought situation, but Lichtenstein leaves so many cold, it was almost unfair to the TLiiD crew to give them his “work”.

I need to get Twitter — I don’t know know if anyone would have gone for Scarlet Witch as Goya’s Saturn, or Katar, Shayera, Sam Wilson and (of course) Kyle Richmond in Hopper’s Nighthawks; but they’ll never get drawn if you don’t tweet ‘em, right?

With absolutely no doubt, Phillip Sevy took it home this week with The Four Gemstones. There’s so much crazy detail in it that I’m surprised he had time for two pieces!

I’m not even a Transformers fan, but Marco D’Alfonso’s Optimus Prime is OUTSTANDING.

I need to get Twitter — I don’t know know if anyone would have gone for Scarlet Witch as Goya’s Saturn, or Katar, Shayera, Sam Wilson and (of course) Kyle Richmond in Hopper’s Nighthawks; but they’ll never get drawn if you don’t tweet ‘em, right?

There was a suggestion on the list that was very close to that, as I recall, Becca. But when you have 16 people choosing from a list of 100+ suggestions, even some great ideas won’t get drawn. :)

Lichtenstein? Really?

Can you confirm and maybe change the wording for next week? Because I think you mean they could draw the offspring as adults too, yes?

Da-DAMN! Really outstanding work, everybody! Y’all captured the looks of the originals perfectly, if not better…!

And NICK! You are unstoppable, man! UNSTOPPABLE!

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Every week, I’m blown away by the talent and imagination on display!

So many amazing ones this week…. my favorites are Marco D’Alfonso’s exquisitely rendered Optimus Prime, Phillip Sevy’s gorgeous ladies of Sci-Fi and John Trumbull’s humorous Aquaman piece.

CHAZ!!! Great to hear from you! Get back here – we need that off-the-wall (and sometimes disturbing) crazy!

everybody had a great week, sorry I missed it ive completely fallen in love with Marcos Optimus Prime

I hope you and Optimus will be very happy together, Steve. :)

I hate to be a grouch (I don’t hate to be a grouch), but the idea of superimposing comic book characters onto Lichtenstein’s work has the distinct feeling of “missing the point,” going beyond being pointless. I don’t have the words to describe how dissatisfied I am.

Also, The Optimus Prime piece is the best thing I’ve seen here since Canaan Grail moved on. Maybe ever.

“Can we all get together to buy Sijo a sense of humor?”

That’d be nice. Thought I think I would prefer a better appreciation for my efforts to provide more than generic “everybody was great OK Thanx bye!” comments instead.

Jesus, these are amazing. That Optimus Prime… holy balls.

Oh no I fell into Sijo’s traaaaaapppp….!!!!

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My favourites were Phil Sevy’s magnificent Precious Stones and Marco D’Alfonso’s Optimus Prime.

Topo was so much funnier.
Excellent choice!

Nick: Thanks, man! I can’t wait to be back. I’m ready to bring on the weirdness!

Total Hell Yeah on Jocasta!

My favorites are the batman last supper and Optimus Prime tattoo.

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Chaz, I second Nick’s sentiment. I miss your style at the Line!

These were all fantastic, although I think Nick Perks’ entry was my favourite.

If it’s not too cheeky, here’s a homage to Edward Hopper’s “Nighthawks” that I did last year, featuring a few alternate Kyle Richmonds:

http://discogod.deviantart.com/gallery/?offset=24#/d3eczku

Thanks, Big Mike! I’m ready to be back! You keep the dream alive! THANK YOU!

And just you wait… I’m gonna swoop back in like a tornado of ninjas! TORNADO NINJAS!!!

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I hate how Liechtenstein took comic book panels and made them into “art”. They already WERE art! GAH!!!

That being said, great job by everybody this week. Really, absolutely everybody was pretty much flawless.

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I wonder what you guys really think Lichtenstein set out to do.
I think it’s a big difference between Lichtenstein and some comic artist that »swipes«.

Lichtenstein made paintings using images as a motif. It was the thing, sort of a pun or supposedly clever art thing. Sort of like Warhol’s Brillo boxes.

I don’t think he ever wanted people to believe that he, not Romita and friends, had made the images from scratch. That would be kind of counter to his point, I think. Look at art writings from the sixties—it seems very clear that the critics knew he was depicting already existing images from comic books, not creating them whole cloth—that’s why they loved him.

“Heheheh, I’m gonna rip off Romita so people think I’m as talented as he is!” ? Somehow I’ve a hard time thinking that was how he thought.

Now, not everyone above is saying that—some are just mad that Lichtenstein’s out-of-context images were such a hit while comics was considered trash. Not trash, really—the silver age was kind of good to comics, critically—but I agree that the comics artists were severely underrated while Lichtenstein a bit overrated, maybe. To you guys, please don’t think I’m trying to strawman you in the first half of this post. If you understood what Lichtenstein was about and still don’t dig it, I don’t mind.

Just that it seems to me that at least some fans think he was just trying to pass off the comic creators’ work as his own.
It was clear to the art world at the time that he was making paintings of paintings. That was the point. And the fact that the paintings were commercial illustrations, at that time considered “less” worthy, was part of the point.
I think these comics are more valued today, not less, because of Lichtensteins work.

Now, would it have been better if he had credited the images? Yes. It does seem at times that he bought into the idea that these comics basically just existed, overlooking the hard work behind them—but remember, many of them didn’t even have any credits at the time.

Thanks.

I totally agree, Sandra, but it is especially irksome when Lichtenstein did not credit Irv Novick, who he specifically KNEW PERSONALLY! Heck, Novick actually helped him out during their time during the War and then he goes out and doesn’t credit Novick while he becomes rich and famous using two paintings based on Novick panels.

The credit stuff is uncool.

Otherwise, yeah, I absolutely agree that what Lichenstein was trying to do with his artwork is woefully misunderstood.

You’re the best, Brian!

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