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The Line it is Drawn #93 – Cross-Company Team-Ups!

Go follow Comics Should Be Good on Twitter (if you have Twitter, that is – if you don’t, you can go sign up). Here is our Twitter page… http://twitter.com/csbg. And here are the Comics Should Be Good writers who are on Twitter (the links go to the person’s Twitter account) – myself, Greg Hatcher, Chad Nevett, Kelly Thompson, Sonia Harris Danielle Leigh, Melinda Beasi, Michelle Smith, Bill Reed and Scott!

I update the blog’s Twitter account updates whenever a new post is put up on the blog, so it’s an easy way to keep up with the blog. In addition, I post new content on the blog’s Twitter account.

Now on to the bit!

So every week, I ask a question here. You reply to it on our Twitter page (just write @csbg with your reply) and our blog sketch artists will each pick one of your suggestions and I will post them here every week. So every week you will have a new question and you will see the choices picked from the previous week. Here is an archive of all the previous editions of The Line It Is Drawn!

To qualify, you have to be following us when you reply – so go follow us and then give your answer to the following question/challenge (All suggestions due by 6:00 AM Pacific this Friday).

The topic is…

Based on a suggestion by John Trumbull, the topic is character design What If? Like “What if Jack Kirby had designed Batman?” or “What if Spider-Man had been designed in the 1930s?” or “What if Archie had been designed during the 1990s?” Let your imagination go wild!

Read on for the sketches that came about courtesy of the last question/challenge!

Team-up two comic book characters from different companies. Just name two characters and our artists can go nuts with how the two characters will team-up.

Enjoy!

I’ll put them in alphabetical order based on the name of the Twitter user who made the suggestion.

All copyright and trademarks of the following characters are held by their respective owners!

B_2quared suggested:

Apollo/Midnighter and Northstar!

Michael “Mic?” Magtanong is the artist for this one. Here is his website.

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BigMike20X6 suggested:

Wonder Woman (Lynda Carter) & Hulk (Lou Ferrigno) team up for the greatest CBS TV movie never made

Daniel Cox drew this one. Here is his website.

BigMike20X6 suggested:

The Crusader (Love & Capes) & Bravado (The Hero Business)

Bill Walko drew this one. His website is here.

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BigMike20X6 suggested:

John Constantine & Hellboy

Sean McFarland is the artist for this one. Here is his website.

BigMike20X6 suggested:

Green Lantern & Rom: Spaceknight

Xum Yukinori drew this one. Here is his website.

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BigMike20X6 suggested:

Bluntman & Swamp Thing

Josh Gowdy drew this one. His website is here.

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BigMike20X6 suggested:

Radioactive Man (Simpsons) & Powdered Toast Man

Chaz Folgar is the artist for this one. Here is his website.

dc2omniverse suggested:

Popeye and Hourman

Nick Perks is the artist for this one. Here is his website.

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dc2omniverse suggested a few different character combinations that Nick Perks put together for his piece…

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Ecovore and mickeyangelsong suggested:

Alan Scott and Northstar

Steve Howard is the artist for this one. Here is his website.

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Kholdstare21 suggested:

Deadpool vs. Stormshadow and Snake Eyes

Marco D’Alfonso drew this one. Here is his website.

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ozmendoza suggested:

Archie and Vampirella

Axel Medellin drew this one. His website is href="http://www.nancynismo.deviantart.com/gallery/">here.

shurwitt suggested:

Casper and Deadman

Nick Perks is also the artist for this one. Here is his website.

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shurwitt suggested:

Vampirella and Lilith, Daughter of Dracula

Phillip Sevy drew this one. Here is his website.

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snakebitcat suggested:

Martian Manhunter and Marvin the Martian.

Cynthia “Thea” Rodgers drew this one. Her website is here.

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therealAstrozac suggested (combined with a suggestion from nearly a year ago by
cableandtweed:

Golden Age batman and the Rocketeer

John Trumbull drew this one. Here is his website.

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Awesome work, everybody!

Okay, folks, now go make suggestions for next week!

53 Comments

Great work gang! Top stuff.

And Brian, I’ll resize my image before sending next week. :)

Forget wallpaper for your desktop….

Hulk/WW TV Guide and Marvin the Martian w/ Martian Manhunter for me this week!

wowza!! artistically I think this may be our strongest week, well done fellow liners :)

It’s a strong week for everyone, but Daniel Cox’s Wonder Woman / Hulk piece is really blowing me away. Doing it as a TV Guide cover (complete with a subscription label!) was pretty brilliant.

Worcester, MA 01610? Main South represent!

I spent five good years in 01610. Awesome to see your city on something so random.

One thing that really stands out this week is the ability of all of the artists to seamlessly blend, in various ways, the sometimes clashing artistic styles of the mashed-up characters and genres. Nick Perks, Cynthia Rodgers, John Trumbull, and Axel Medllin all seem to have found interesting, flexible, and innovative hybrid styles based on the source materials. (It’s amazing how well Popeye and Hourman mesh in Nick Perks’s piece, for example.

Mic Magtanong, Bill Walko, Xum Yukinori, Josh Gowdy, Chaz Folgar, and Phillip Sevy, in turn, have demonstrated that their own styles can incorporate and benefit a wide range of characters often depicted in narrower and comparatively inflexible and undynamic ways.

Daniel Cox had the superficially simpler job of fitting together two characters from the same aesthetic tradition and medium– 1970s and 80s cheap-F/X superhero dramas — but he nonetheless flexes a lot of artistic muscle to incorporate a second style by going with the “painted pencils” style and magazine-cover layout of the old TV Guide. Similarly, Marco D’Alfonso could have taken the easy way and riffed on the “Pat Lee”*/UDON Ameri-manga aesthetic shared by many of the post-Kelly Deadpool series and the revived G.I. Joe comics, but he goes the extra mile by fitting that look to a very different (and much more narratively rich and lucid) layout style inspired by classic 1970s film posters.

If there’s one thing that comes through every week, it’s that all of these artists know comics storytelling inside and out, something that puts them well ahead of 99% of comics professionals.

I need a poster of the Incredible Hulk/Wonder Woman & The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly. Awesome job on all the work this week guys.

Great work all around!

I really like Thea’s funny Marvin & Martian Manhunter, Marco’s “Good/Bad/Ugly” homage, and John Trumbull’s retro Batman/Rocketeer!

But my fav is Daniel Cox’s Wonder Woman and Hulk… complete with the sinister 70s super-computer. That’s just beautifully rendered and conceptually awesome with the TV Guide cover!

I agree that Daniel Cox’s TV Guide cover is the cream of this crop. I also really love John Trumbull’s Batman/Rocketeer/Red Skull(!), Thea Rodgers’ Martian team-up, and Nick Perks’ Hourman/Popeye. So great.

This a really strong week. Daniel Cox TV Guide cover is really clever and well executed. Xum Yukinori really captured that Bronze Age feel on his Green Lantern/Rom piece. Nick Perks drew a really dynamic Popeye & Hourman team-up.

@Bells

Yeah, Woostah! A few years ago I was reading an old Thor comic from the 90’s and saw a published letter Christos Gage from Grafton, MA and had a similar reaction.

That Green Lantern / Rom Spaceknight piece was genius. Perfect.
(Perks’ Society of Evil, which was great, reminded me an awful lot of the pulp hero team from Planetary #1…)

David of the Impeccable Taste

June 7, 2012 at 7:41 am

All were really good this week. But the Popeye/Hourman really caught my eye. Also Bluntman wanting to smoke Swamp Thing was pretty funny.

Bluntman wanting to smoke Swamp Thing had me cracking up! Great job to all you guys!

Great week, but the most love has got to go out to the TV Guide and the GL/Rom pieces! Harken back to my youth. And seeing people comment about “old” comics…you know, those ones from the “ninties” makes me feel real old about now! ;)

Raffaele Ienco

June 7, 2012 at 7:51 am

Daniel Cox’s Wonder Woman / Hulk piece is really blowing me away. Doing it as a TV Guide cover (complete with a subscription label!) was pretty brilliant.
+1!

Was the Hulk ever on ABC? I thought he was only CBS — otherwise what an awesome execution of the idea!

The affection for ol’ Toasterhead that keeps cropping up at this site makes me want to go see if I can find any ROM comics — and I love how Xum worked his signature into the UPC!

Deadman is one of my favorite characters, and Perks does a great job — but was anyone else thinking he’d possess Denzel Washington with the title “Training Day”?

Careful, J’onn — being sabotaged makes him Angry! (wish I could remember the name of the device Marvin was always chasing, but I just can’t) I’m a sucker for Marvin anyway — that Yosemite Sam/War of the Worlds was my wallpaper for a long time. It just got replaced.

Batman, the Rocketeer AND the Red Skull? Can Brubaker get to writing that yesterday, please? Because John should be hired to draw it….

I like the KC styling, mic?, and adding Alan Scott and Grace Choi is perfect. Can we send them to that idiot’s church in Kansas, so he can figure out what God REALLY hates?

Deadpool is his own spaghetti movie in his mind anyway — a perfect piece by Marco.

And Steve Howard gives us something I’ve never seen in any comic — a happy Northstar! I didn’t think it was possible!

All right, all right, I’ll get Twitter — I have to try and get an idea in for next week!

Very nice, Chaz, but Powdered Toast Man flies ass first. His cheeks should be tenaciously assaulting Radioactive Man.

Ethan Shuster

June 7, 2012 at 8:22 am

@Bells and @Kevin,

I’m surprised I wasn’t the only one who reacted to Worcester, though I’m now in a town next door! Have you also spent a lot of time flipping through comics at That’s Entertainment?

Ethan Shuster

June 7, 2012 at 8:23 am

I love the WW / Hulk piece, and those are some nice designs for Snake-Eyes and Storm Shadow!

Mike Loughlin

June 7, 2012 at 8:35 am

The Hulk in David Cox’s piece looks like what I saw in my head when I watched that show as a kid. It was one of my favorites, but the Lou Ferrigno Hulk still scared me. Awesome!

As usual, everyone turned out good work, both impressive and fun.

Becca, both Hulk and Wonder Woman ran on CBS. Great cover for the TV Guide, I was quite pleased with how it turned out.

Stellar across the board…

awesomeness all around!!
a real fun week..
bluntman and swamp thing may be one of the best things i have ever seen..

All good, but The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly…. AWESOME

Great work all around. Does anyone know who the woman is in the image with Green Lantern, North Star, Apollo and Midnighter? I can’t place her.

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Grace from DC’s 2003 OUTSIDERS, who is bi-sexual I believe.

Mic?: Always a fan of Alex Ross. This work helps remind all of us that, gay or straight, heroes are heroes.

Daniel: This is simply amazing. I have just started to figure out how to make my illos look like actual printed comics, but your breathtaking TV Guide cover is still “taking me to school.” As for the comments about both shows being CBS series (at least the “present” timelines), I believe it was ABC that did the “Movie of the Week.” And if this would have been a reunion movie for both series, there is no reason it couldn’t air on ABC. I believe the Hulk revival movies aired on NBC, didn’t they?

Bill: Nice to see the Crusader done in “Hero Business” style (thanks for the FCBD offer by the way). And I too subscribe to the tropes of the First-Time Team-Up Contract, as you can see.

Note to Self: Still can’t get over how huge ROM’s weapon is… in real (toy) life. I don’t think we’ve seen the last of this 1980s “Brave and the Bold” cover motif either, have we?

Josh: Great joke. My 7-year-old didn’t get it – and he better not for a long, long time…

Chaz: Awesome piece, and another heroes-meeting-for-the-first-time-to-battle battle. That comic book trope never gets old… at least not with me. The Kirby Krackle works great here as well (this would make a great CD cover if they ever write a song about this team up). My money would be on PTM becoming… well, toast.

Nick: I am always in awe of your (and Daniel Cox’s) painting style. How do you generate these (three?!) pieces so quickly? Love the Tick-Tock Tyler secret reveal! And the Society against Evil would make an awesome IDW series… if only DC would play along. And your rendering of Casper looks better than the live action movies. Are those possessed people anyone we know?

Steve: A very nice, very human piece, and funny too. Great work.

Marco: This is just awesome. I can hear the whistle and see the tumbleweeds rolling past the COBRA base now…

Axel: Love the Betty and Veronica twist to this. I think even Archie is surprised at how… racy this situation is. Hand-holding indeed! Oh, the indecency…!

Phillip: Like how you have distinct looks for two very similar characters. Sharing a Bloody Mary, I take it?

Thea: Very nice work. So that’s what an X-14 Space Modulator looks like! I like how the Martian dog is on to J’onn’s mischief. But how will we solve the Earth’s fuel problem now?!

John: Pure old-school gold, and the black-and-white rendering is fantastic. I honestly do not think adding color will significantly improve this, not that I wouldn’t want to see you try.

Great week all around. I always look forward to Thursdays…

Xum

Sean: Sorry I missed your fun piece there. That’s exactly how I would see J.C. be a team player, the lazy git…

Xum

Sorry I missed this, would have followed on twitter to see Bomb Queen and Ignatz mouse….

archie, use protection.

who is the chick in red in the first one/

Brian from Canada

June 7, 2012 at 1:11 pm

Really, really love the TV Guide cover.

Brave & The Bold: GL & ROM is something classic and would actually want me to read the comic.

And I love the Joe/Deadpool poster — if only for the wonderful caption.

Keep it up folks!

And Brian: PLEEEEEEASE see if your publisher will do a colour poster book of some of these one day — letting fans vote for them too. :-)

OK, since I’m home from work now, I have time to comment on everyone’s SPECTACULAR work this week!

Mic?: I agree with Xum. This piece defnitely has a nice Alex Ross-ish vibe.

Daniel: My favorite of the week. Great likeness, concept & execution. Wonderful colors! You really did a nice job emulating the style of all those old Richard Amsel TV Guide covers from the 70s and 80s. I’m going to be picking your brain about this one over email or on Deviant Art.

Bill: Always fun to see you do some stuff for The Hero Business! I’m so envous of how you’re able to do a nice clean-line style every week. My pieces always start out that way, but I can hardly ever stop myself from noodling & adding feathering during the inks…

Sean: Funny piece that really captures the personalities of both characters well. Well done!

Xum: Great layout that captures a nice Bronze-Age flavor. I love it when a LIID piece actually implies a story beyond the image, and you really did that here. But what REALLY puts this piece over the top is all the extra cover details you put in the like the LIID-esque Brave And The Bold logo! LOVE it!

Josh: This is about the best possible treatment I can imagine of an idea I wasn’t nuts about when I read it in our suggestions for the week.

Chaz: I was looking forward to this piece as soon as I read that you were doing it. These characters perfectly suit your style, and you did not disappoint! Great job!

Nick: I KNEW that whoever ended up doing this one was going to do something with the spinach-Miraclo connection. I second Xum’s awe of your painting style. I’ve love to get a tutorial from you on how to do an impressive-looking painting like this on a weekly basis.

Wait, make that TWO paintings! WOW!! – How cool is it to see all those Pulp Heroes together like that?

Steve: Again, the color really puts this one over the top. Nice touches with the disco BG, the reflections on the bar and the DC & Marvel beers. I really like how you put some of your ink lines in color holds, too (Something I want to experiment more with in the future). And it’s nice to see a quiet, human moment with GL & Northstar just shooting the breeze and connecting as buddies.

Marco: Nice extra funny twist you put on the initial idea. My interest in these characters is miniscule, but this piece is so wonderful I still get a kick out of it.

Axel: Great idea and I like how you have all the characters interacting. Some nice extra funny twists on the basic gag and OH MY is that an attractive Vampirella or what?

Nick #3: Dude, STOP IT. You’re just showing off at this point. > ;)

Phillip: Man, what it is with those 70s female Vampires and their plunging necklines? Nice matchup — this would be a cool story to read!

Thea: Excellent Marvin, Marvin’s dog, and X-14 Space Modulator there. Have you ever seen this piece of these two characters by John Delaney?
http://www.myspace.com/ghettorocker211/photos/3691251#%7B%22ImageId%22%3A3691251%7D

John: Hack. :P

One thing that really stands out this week is the ability of all of the artists to seamlessly blend, in various ways, the sometimes clashing artistic styles of the mashed-up characters and genres. […] (It’s amazing how well Popeye and Hourman mesh in Nick Perks’s piece, for example.

Thanks, Omar, that’s an excellent point about our artists and I certainly agree!

Batman, the Rocketeer AND the Red Skull? Can Brubaker get to writing that yesterday, please? Because John should be hired to draw it….

I would take that job in a New York Minute, BeccaBlast. Anybody have Bru’s contact info? Let’s make this happen!!! :)

And Brian: PLEEEEEEASE see if your publisher will do a colour poster book of some of these one day — letting fans vote for them too.

I really like this idea, too, but I’d imagine that the legal logistics of all the different companies we hit on here would make it near-impossible.

I applaud you all!!! WW/Hulk is excellent!

For the record — Daniel… man. I got a chill when I saw that TV Guide cover. Absolutely spot on, perfection to a Tee.

Someone should do Spiderman 2099 and Boostergold :D

Scot: Damn, I had a feeling something was off! The embarrassing part for me is that I re-watched the Powdered Toast Man episode before drawing and completely glossed over that ASStonishing (yep, pun intended!) fact…! Next time, though, it’ll be a backwards flying Powdered Toast Man! I PROMISE! In any case, glad you still liked it!

And thanks for the kind words Omar, Xum, and John (a sweet suggestion from Big Mike, too!)! You guys rule!

This truly was a PHENOMENAL week for everyone! To many more, I say!

@Ethan

Buying comics at That’s Entertainment? Only every Wednesday!

This week is more of a free-form theme, isn’t it? That can go any ways. Let’s see what our creators come up with.

Apollo/Midnighter and Northstar!: And they do…. Nothing? Just pose? Looks pretty (hey, mic art) but there’s no story here. I hope this doesn’t happen in the rest. PS: who are the other characters?

Wonder Woman (Lynda Carter) & Hulk (Lou Ferrigno) team up for the greatest CBS TV movie never made!: This is much better: it captures the essence of the series of the time, and even the look of TV Guide. Though it still doesn’t say much: is WW trying to capture the Hulk, or cure him, etc?

The Crusader (Love & Capes) & Bravado (The Hero Business): I know almost nothing about either character, but Bill’s piece is so funny it makes me want to! ?

John Constantine & Hellboy: Hate the first, like the second. And yeah that teamup would likely go like that. At least it has a story!

Green Lantern & Rom: Spaceknight: Ah,classic team-up, with a cover that makes you go “The Fk!? I gotta buy it to find out what’s going on!” And I loved Rom back in the day. Green Lantern too (not so much these days.)

Bluntman & Swamp Thing: Don’t care about either character. The art is ok, the joke mildly amusing.

Radioactive Man (Simpsons) & Powdered Toast Man: I almost liked Radioactive Man (thanks to Simpsons comics). PTM on the other hand, I could never stand (mainly because I hate Ren and Stimpy with all my soul.) However if it had to be done, Chaz was the perfect artist for it.

Popeye and Hourman: Funny how this one has never been done before, even as a joke? And as usual Perks masters all the art styles involved. Best one so far.

The Society Against Evil: This is a nice idea in principle, but all these characters lived far too apart from each other (Dare is from the future!) and probably would not get along (especially with the Shadow being willing to kill criminals) but nice-looking piece (as expected.)

Alan Scott and Northstar: Is THIs the story the first art piece was trying to tell? Personally I’m against the ‘gaying’ of Alan Scott, not so much in itself as it being yet another unjustified character change. Just make NEW characters and have them be gay dammit! (The joke itself was kinda funny btw.)

Deadpool vs. Stormshadow and Snake Eyes: Ugh, Deadpool, there’s no way I’m gonna like- wait, a The Good, The Bad and The Ugly tribute? Ok that made me smile, I admit it. ;)

Archie and Vampirella: Oh God, this is wrong in SO many levels, I can’t help but laugh! I think it would have been even funnier done in Archie-style art, but still! :D

Casper and Deadman: Now, Casper is one character where Perk’s art didn’t fit, sorry to hear. On the other hand, if Casper could possess people, he might not have been so lonely. So A+ on the story idea!

Vampirella and Lilith, Daughter of Dracula: Bartender: “What will you ladies have?” They: “Two Bloody Marys, please!” XD (What? The joke is ancient, but so are these vamps!)

Martian Manhunter and Marvin the Martian: Didn’t this happen? In Superman meets Bugs Bunny, I believe? In any case LOL!

Golden Age batman and the Rocketeer: With the Red Skull as the villain!! Man I’d BUY this comic! (the only thing missing is that Betty Page-like love interest the Rocketeer comics always had, but its good enough!)

Thank goodness, most of the crossovers DID have a story (and some were pretty interesting too!) Remember guys, unless you’re drawing a pin-up book, having your characters just stand around looking pretty isn’t enough! You can convey a LOT just with a few words and action poses!

Once again, thanks a lot to everyone ho contributed this week! ?

Golden Age batman and the Rocketeer: With the Red Skull as the villain!! Man I’d BUY this comic! (the only thing missing is that Betty Page-like love interest the Rocketeer comics always had, but its good enough!)

Having Betty be the one tied up instead of Cliff WAS something that occurred to me, but since it occurred to me when I was halfway through penciling, I told that inner voice to shut the hell up and wait for some other week. :)

…And did anyone happen to notice that the Red Skull has stolen Cliff’s rocket pack?

Yes! That’s why HE MUST BE STOPPED! AT ALL COSTS! The future of America depends on it! A power like the rocket pack in the hands of a madman COULD CHANGE THE COURSE OF THE WAR!

Ok, I’m getting a little breathless — rudimentary 1940’s comics writing class coming up — good thing the first page series this week has been all 30’s and 40’s references — I’ll have a script to you by next week, John?

Wow. Just Wow. I’ve heard from a couple of friends that this week was the best yet and I have to agree. John Trumbull’s Batman/ Rocketeer piece covers two of my favorite characters in a perfect style and the Hulk/WW mash-up is brilliant. Great stuff.

Oh- and John, Ed Brubaker is on twitter (@brubaker). You should send him a tweet about writing the story behind this week’s piece.

John: Ha! I can totally picture the Red Skull leading that pack of Nazi Rocketeers they show in that secret, animated film reel within the movie! Freakin’ AWESOME!

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any ROM spaceknight fans out there (crickets chirping)? just in case if there are you’ll love it here: http://www.romspaceknightart.blogspot.com/

John: Ha! I can totally picture the Red Skull leading that pack of Nazi Rocketeers they show in that secret, animated film reel within the movie! Freakin’ AWESOME!

That’s exactly what I was thinking of when I was drawing it, Chaz! :)

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hey Big Mike, i just found some new original ROM fan art i think . . no, i’m sure you’ll like. this guy does Sal Buscema real justice . . . http://romspaceknightart.blogspot.com/2012/06/awesome-original-commission-art-of-rom.html

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