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2012 Top 100 Comic Book Runs #90-86

You voted, now here are the results of your votes for your favorite comic book creator runs of all-time! We’ll be revealing five runs a day for most of the month. Here is a master list of all of the runs revealed so far.

Here’s the next five runs…

90. John Layman and Rob Guillory’s Chew – 98 (1)

Chew #1-current (#27)

Chew is the story of Tony Chu and his various friends and family members. Who’s Tony Chu, you ask? Well, here you go…

In the marvelously strange world that Layman and Guillory have created, there are often pages just like that one, as they introduce a new character who has a similar food-related skill. In the Chew universe, the most powerful government agency is the FDA.

Chu’s power usage takes a turn for the surreal in the first issue…

Chu begins to work for the FDA and while solving crimes he also gets caught up in a variety of increasingly outlandish conspiracies.

As you can see from the above pages, the highlight of Chew is the inventiveness of both Layman and Guillory, as they are always coming up with bold (and often strange) new ideas. However, along the way they also do a wonderful job developing the various supporting cast members that they have introduced over the years. By now, they can easily go multiple issues without even having Tony in the book and the title is STILL fun. I mean, come on, Agent Poyo alone is worth the price of admission (Agent Poyo is a cyborg cybernetic, kung-fu expert fighting cock who works for the FDA).

89. Mark Waid and Mike Wieringo’s Fantastic Four – 99

Fantastic Four Vol. 3 #60-70, Fantastic Four #500-524 (Wieringo as artist of 27 of the 36 issues)

The Fantastic Four was Mark Waid’s triumphant return to Marvel, after some time at DC and Crossgen.

His run, along with the late, great Mike Wieringo, tried to inject new life and verve into the world of the Fantastic Four, through way-out stories and superheroics that were truly fantastic. While, of course, giving a heavy focus to the individual members of the team and their various motivations. For instance, in a classic scene from the first issue of their run, Waid explains just why it is that the Fantastic Four are so publicity-driven…

Touching stuff.

Perhaps the most notable part of Waid and Wieringo’s run was what they did with Doctor Doom. They had the power-mad villain kill his childhood love to gain mystical powers, including a new suit of armor made out of her flesh (gruesome, eh?). The basic idea of the story was that Doom, a man of magic and science, kept getting defeated by Reed Richards, a man strictly of science. Therefore, if Doom is to defeat him, Doom has to center himself on magic. Can Reed counter the attack?

After that storyline, the Fantastic Four end up stuck on a journey to heaven itself to rescue one of the members of the team. Once there, they meet God (Jack Kirby).

One of the later stores in the run involved a Galactus story where Galactus becomes human for a time.

The late, great Wieringo was a master at expressions, which always grounded the stories in relatable terms, no matter how fantastical the adventure might be.

88. Joe Hill and Gabriel Rodriguez’s Locke and Key – 100 (3)

Locke and Key: Welcome to Lovecraft #1-6, Locke and Key:Head Games #1-6, Locke and Key:Crown of Shadows #1-6, Locke and Key:Keys to the Kingdom #1-6 and Locke and Key:Clockworks #1-6 (series still ongoing, just in between mini-series at the moment)

Locke and Key is a series about three siblings (the Lockes) who move to their family estate (Keyhouse) with their mother after their father is murdered. Once there, they begin to discover magic keys that can open up doors in Keyhouse. Different keys have different properties. While this obviously could be a set-up for a fun tale, in the case of Locke and Key it is a horror story, as the keys are involved with some pretty dark magic. Hill manages his large cast extremely well, giving every character (the Lockes plus their friends and family) equal opportunity to shine (or, as is the case with Locke and Key, equal opportunity to get put through terrible situations).

Rodriguez shines with his detailed, expressive artwork. One of the most notable aspects of Locke and Key is the sequential storytelling. A great deal of terror is wrung just out of the usage of panels as the slow reveal of something awful is right at the turn of the page. Rodriguez does a great job milking the horror out of all of his pages.

Hill is also adept at revealing the mystery of the keys slowly but surely. As time goes by, we learn bits and pieces about the history of the keys as we lead up to the final storyline, which will be out soon.

One of the most acclaimed issues of the series (which is a series of mini-series, three “Acts” consisting of two six-issue mini-series each. We’re in the middle of the final act now) is the first issue of the second mini-series in Act Two, Keys to the Kingdom, where we see the mindset of the youngest of the Lockes, Bode, as Hill and Rodriguez pay tribute to Calvin and Hobbes by having Bode’s view of the world appear similar to Bill Watterson’s Calvin character.

In the issue, Bode uses the Animal Key to become a bird. However, one of the villains of the book has also used the key to become a wolf and is attacking Bode’s brother and sister. Note the wonderful contrast here by Rodriguez in the depiction of Bode’s attempts to help his siblings from HIS perspective…

and then reality…

Impressive stuff.

Locke and Key is a fine series and one of the best horror comics in YEARS.

87. Dan Slott’s Amazing Spider-Man – 102

Amazing Spider-Man #648-current (#695)

One of the original team of writers who launched Brand New Day in Amzing Spider-Man #546, Slott became the sole writer of Spider-Man with Amazing Spider-Man #648, which was the start of “Big Time.” He mostly has worked with artists Humberto Ramos, Stefano Caselli, Marcos Martin and Giuseppe Camuncoli during his current run.

Slott’s best traits on Amazing Spider-Man have been the way that he follows in the strong suit of past Spider-Man writers of mixing action-packed adventures with character-driven stories in a blend that feels like a natural extenuation of whatever is going on in the book at that time. So a big event where everyone on Manhattan gets Spider-powers is personalized by the fact that Peter Parker’s girlfriend has the powers, too, and it leads her to figure out that Peter has been lying to her about his secret identity. Or, in one of the strongest one-shot issues of Slott’s run, Amazing Spider-Man #665, we see the trade-off for Spider-Man and Peter Parker both becoming so successful (Spider-Man being on two Avengers teams and the Future Foundation and Peter now becoming a successful designer at a think tank reverse-engineering the gadgets he creates as Spider-Man into useful technology for everyday life), which is that he is too busy for people like his closest friends. So when Betty Brant is assaulted after Peter stands her up for a standing movie date, Peter vows revenge (naturally) but what does that look like to his friends and family? Peter is out finding Betty’s assailant, but to everyone else, he is not there for Betty when she needs it the most.

Peter’s guilt is a major driving force in the brilliant “No One Dies” story that Slott did after the death of J. Jonah Jameson’s wife. Peter is haunted in his dreams at the people that he has “let” die in his life…

Besides the character work, Slott also can nail the action drama, like the recent Ends of the Earth storyline, where Spider-Man literally travels all over the globe in an attempt to stop Doctor Octopus from killing most of the people of Earth. And, of course, Slott knows how to bring the funny. So he’s pretty much everything you want from an ongoing Spider-Man writer. Good thing he’s writing the book, huh?

86. Bryan Lee O’Malley’s Scott Pilgrim – 103

Scott Pilgrim’s Precious Little Life, Scott Pilgrim vs. The World, Scott Pilgrim & The Infinite Sadness, Scott Pilgrim Gets It Together,Scott Pilgrim vs. The Universe and Scott Pilgrim’s Finest Hour

Bryan Lee O’Malley’s Scott Pilgrim is about a Canadian young man (a bit of a slacker) who falls in love with an American girl named Ramona, but before he can “officially” date her, he has to defeat her seven “evil ex-boyfriends.”

In the early volumes of the series, O’Malley got a great deal of humor out of the idea that this otherwise normal young man suddenly fights people, Street Fighter-style. While humorous, though, O’Malley never lost touch with depicitng an otherwise realistic vision of what it is like to be in that weird nebulous zone between being a teen and being an ADULT. Scott is our slacker hero, but the rest of his band (Sex Bob-Omb), his sister, his too-young-for-him high school girlfriend Knives, his gay roommate Wallace and Ramona Flowers, the young woman he has to fight the boyfriends over are given very nice, defined, personalities.

O’Malley’s Manga-inspired art adds to their personalities nicely, with the subtle touches in their reactions and facial expressions putting across a good deal of the information that we have about their personalities. The relationship between Scott and Ramona (she is an Amazon.ca delivery girl, they have a “Meet Cute” when Scott orders from Amazon just to meet her) is rich, and believable. O’Malley has an ear for realistic dialogue, and the interactions between Scott and Knives (the high school girl) and Scott and Ramona are distinct entities, but both of them portray how Scott can be seen as appealing to both ladies.

Later in the series, things take a dramatic turn as Scott’s “journey” is nearing its end and the question has to be asked – what now? What does everyone do with their lives once Scott has defeated all of the ex-boyfriends? Has any of the past volumes truly prepared Scott for a “real life” with Ramona beyond the spectacle of fighting her evil ex-boyfriends? It’s a sober reality that pops into the tale with a vengeance, as O’Malley pulls the ol’ bait and switch, giving us heartfelt drama in the middle of our funnybook!

This leads to one of my favorite sequences in the entire series, where Ramona runs away from their relationship and Scott finds himself in a tough spot, weakened by his lack of confidence in whether their love is actually worth fighting for, as two of her ex-boyfriends rattle him with dispragaging comments about how Ramona is not worth it. Scott’s friend, Kim, who herself has questions about whether she wouldn’t prefer Scott to NOT date Ramona, finds herself in a tough position and she makes a touching choice (I had to go over three pages here – the scene just doesn’t make sense otherwise)…

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Yesterday I was familiar with most of the runs that were mentioned. Today it’s the other way around: Four runs I’ve never glanced at, and one I’ve read part of, but didn’t fall madly in love with. (I’m referring to the earlier issues of that Mark Waid FF run).

None of my picks have been mentioned yet, but I’m expecting at least 5 of my 10 to land somewhere in the Top 100, and it wouldn’t break my heart if a couple of the others surprised me by doing the same thing!

Oh man, I almost forgot how awesome Marcos Martin is.

scott pilgrim looks a bit perverted what with those children faces.

i also dont like its touchy feely kitsch that centers only around obsessive love and or “getting the girl”. (see blankets)

So far, none of my runs have appeared on this list. I’m kind of irritated at the sheer number of current runs, but the same thing happened on the last list. I’m sure a lot of the runs that ranked highly before have fallen due to the “not current” status.

Wow, interesting day. This list is definitely shaping up to have quite a different appearance than the previous one.

I’ve only read smatterings of Waid’s FF and Slott’s ASM (including the issues the sample pages were taken from), but I’ve never read any of the other three. Though I’m a huge fan of the Scott Pilgrim film, and highly recommend it. I think it’s one of the most visually inventive films of the last several years.

Chew definitely piques my interest from the sample pages, I might have to see if my local library has any.

As for my own picks, none have shown up yet. I think they’re all locks for the top 40 except for Sleeper, which will hopefully show up in the next few days (Although I’m semi-worried it won’t show at all, if the people who voted for it last time potentially switched their vote to Criminal this time).

Great to see Scott Pilgrim. Characters depicted in such a manga-like style, almost childish, but they have so much spine, they are so driven, that you see right through them, and you end up with that “I’ve been there too” feeling. I’m loving how a lot these runs I’ve never even glanced at, but now it makes me want to read them all, and we’re only at #86.

0/10 so far.

Chew definitely also piqued my interest.

4 of these runs (with the exception of FF) were not on the 2008 list.

Third Man: You mean my CONSTANT talk about how good Chew is hasn’t swayed you yet? I’m sad.

The Crazed Spruce

October 11, 2012 at 11:33 am

Since I don’t live anywhere even close to a comic shop, I haven’t read Chew, Locke and Key, or Scott Pilgrim (I did like the movie, though), so I couldn’t vote for either of them.

Waid and Weiringo’s Fantastic Four made my short list, but didn’t make my top 10.

Dan Slott’s Spider-Man didn’t make my list, but I did enjoy his work on the book. (Oddly enough, Amazing Spider-Man was one of the few comics I was still able to buy here, until about six months ago when they stopped carrying even that.)

When I did my list I self imposed a rule where I wouldn’t vote for a run if there had only been a single creative team. Say, I couldn’t vote for Sin City since nobody worked in that world besides Miller. However, had I not voted that way Scott Pilgrim would have probably cracked my top 5. When I saw it made the list I was going to mention the ‘C’Mon, he’s Scott Pilgrim!” moment only to see that was the scene Brian chose to represent the series. Good choice!

Several runs this time I’m not as familiar with (and I’m WAY behind on “current” comics, so I haven’t gotten to the bulk of Slott’s Spidey run), but Chew> sounds pretty awesome. I’m gonna have to check that out.

Waid and Weiringo’s FF was pretty fantastic. Something else I should really re-read some day…

I’ll add my voice to the greatness of Chew – It is one of the very few series where the first issue completely sold me on the title.

Four comics I’ve read slash am reading, one that was on my list (Waid’s FF).

Yeah, it looks like we’re biased towards current runs. But hey, if they’re really GOOD current runs, who’s complaining?

Waid and Wieringo’s FF was the first from my list to appear. That first issue is still probaly my favorite FF-issue, and one of my favorite single issue stories. Reed’s speech is a great moment for the character, loved the beginning when he tries to find the right words to describe himself, and ending up on ‘arrogant’ and ‘stupid’. It’s a great take on him, and is beautifully bookended in their final issue.

Well Greg, I guess it’s time you found out my dirty little secret. I don’t always read your columns word for word. I skim the whole things, and then the reviews of books I’m interested in I read entirely, as well as your end of column musings on life. I sincerely hope we can still be internet friends.

Even though I guess I’m semi-aware that you usually give Chew high star ratings, I don’t read those reviews because it’s a book that I’ve never really known what it is, and because it’s well into it’s numbering, it feels like it’s too late to be interested in finding out. So I guess, I am that guy that won’t pick up a book unless I can get in with a first issue, and it’s the fault of people like me that DC and Marvel keep rebooting everything forever and ever amen. I wish it weren’t that way, but it often is.

I think part of my problem is that, because I’m a compulsive buyer, I don’t want to start getting a series at a time where I might feel compelled to hunt down and buy all of the previous issues. Getting something from the first issue sort of saves me from that, in a way.

And @Annoyed Grunt

That’s a really interesting rule, and I like where you’re coming from. It’s easier to evaluate how good, for example, Waid’s FF is, because we have a record of so many other creators handling the FF.

For my own list, 4 of my top ten definitely fit this standard (runs of Swamp Thing, X-Men, Daredevil, and Animal Man), and 3 definitely do not (creator owned titles from Vertigo and WIldstorm). Then 3 more are a bit gray depending on how you apply your rule. For example, I voted for Bendis’ Ultimate Spider-Man, which he is the only person to ever write. But hundreds of people have written other iterations of Spider-Man.

In a sense, your rule has effectively separated your list into runs that take place in the DC or Marvel universes, vs. runs that do not. And it would be interesting to see separate top 100s for both. It would give a chance for a lot of great lower profile creator owned series, like Stray Bullets, American Flagg, and The Maxx to stand up with their better known peers, and it would allow slightly more forgotten super-hero runs, like Waid/Ramos Impulse (a personal favorite) and Englehart’s Avengers a shot at making the top 100.

But wither way, I’m still loving this countdown.

Third Man: Ah, I was just funning with you!

Same here buddy. And it turns out my local library has all five trades of Chew, so I’ll start reading them shortly.

Yeah, it looks like we’re biased towards current runs. But hey, if they’re really GOOD current runs, who’s complaining?

Agreed. It’s an interesting point, in that yes, recent runs got a lot of support (they got a lot of support last time around, as well, of course – recent stuff are ALWAYS going to get a lot of support in popularity contests), but, I mean, come on, Joe Hill has won an Eisner for Best Writer, Chew has won a bunch of Eisners, Scott Pilgrim won a bunch of Eisners and also had a cool movie adaptation. This isn’t like people are just voting for whatever comic book they’re currently reading – these are all very acclaimed comic books.

Five modern classics and the first run I voted for (Locke & Key)! Good day.

hah, seems my votes ended up here
Its nice to read different people picking out different favorate aspects of runs.
With Slotts spider-man, I loved the Horizon focused developments – I especially loved that Time-travel story. That was almost Moffet-esq in its neatness.
I also REALLY loved seeing Peter make a difference to the world – his inventions helping and saving lives. It was lovely to show that as peter – a normal human that just works hard – he can create just as much good, if not moreso, then his alter ego.

Waids FF, meanwhile I loved for its crazy ideas. That story with the Equation (or rather, an Expression) was both original and quite touching.

The Waid-’Ringo FANTASTIC FOUR came out during one of my hiatuses from comics, but it is near the top of my “to be read” pile.

I’m genuinely surprised to see Slott’s ASM on the list. Didn’t realize it was so popular.

Anyone who doesn’t read Chew doesn’t enjoy comics.

(Same goes for Atomic Robo)

There’s my hyperbole for the day.

Dan Slott’s Amazing Spider-Man run is the first of my ten picks to appear. I had it #4. Thought it would make the final countdown and I’m glad it has done.

Oh, yes, Chew is great.

Of bias for current runs, that is of course to be expected, but it should also be pointed out that we are in #90-86 here. The area where the most acclaimed non-superhero runs and other oddities reside (unless you guys are really surprising me and have put Goscinny run in Asterix in top 10). Plenty of classics are still expected to show up.

One of the great things about Scott Pilgrim is, like hearing “Avengers Assemble!” or “It’s clobbering time”, is the phrase, “C’mon, he’s Scott Pilgrim”. Then you know you are going to be alright.

I considered voting for Locke and Key, but I held off because I haven’t read all the available books then. I’ve since read Keys to the Kingdom, and that may have pushed it into the list for me. The Bill Watterson tribute and the “February” issue, where day of the month has a page or panel devoted to it, are two of the strongest single-issue comics I’ve ever read.

Interesting list so far! Glad to see Scott Pilgrim made the chart.

If Slotts Spider-Man made it, I expect to see:

JMS
Conoway
Stern
Lee(Duh)

JMS and Conoway weren’t on the 2008 one, but hopefully they can get on this one.

Re @Anonymous, I’m hoping Conway makes it this time around. Not sure he will.

I don’t thing Conway’s run has any realistic chance of making the list since it tends to get overshadowed by Lee’s. And Stern’s isn’t popular enough to make the cut. But JMS? That I could see.

Umm… Stern’s ASM run is consistently the most acclaimed Spidey run after Stan Lee, it’s a lock for this list.

I just went and checked the last list and I hadn’t realized that Stern’s ASM was on there. I had assumed it missed out last time so I figured the same would happen again this time.

But that’s obviously not the case, so it’s probably a safe bet it’ll make the cut this time around as well.

I still don’t think Conway’s run will be on the list this time though.

It is going to be interesting to see if any artist only runs turn up. So far, it is writers, writer-artist teams and cartoonists. It seems as though iconic artists (e.g. Curt Swan on Superman, Dan DeCarlo on Archie, John Buscema on The Avengers) should turn up, but maybe not. Without artist-only runs, there is a lot of room for the third and fourth best writers on generally well-written titles. Otherwise, it is hard to see Roger Stern on ASM squeaking in.

Wait…!? What? This part of the list is more of a time capsule; a take on momentary taste. No?! Most of these runs I have sampled, but perhaps it is time revisit. Certainly totally different from yesterday’s picks (which seemed to be varied enough to get most of us rataling sabers). To this new wrinkle, I tip my hat. To diversity of taste.

Did Doom squirrel-proof his new flesh armor?

I bought that run of Fantastic Four, because I love Mark Waid’s writing.
Unfortunately, the art has kept me from actually reading it. The art (like the samples above) makes it look like it was meant for pre-schoolers.

Nice to see one of my runs (SP) made it already and Chew as well :)

Glad to see Slotts Amazing run there. I especially love the issue illustrated above where Peter remembers the events of Spiderman vrs Wolverine. Since you would think that the one time Peter killed someone like that would be something that haunted him. (In fact I got really annoyed with Bendis when he wrote a scene where Wolverine seemingly only discovers Spiderman’s identity in his Secret War, when of course Logan had already known that for years since Spiderman vrs Wolverine. It was kind of an important story that shouldn’t be overlooked.)

I really liked most of the Fantastic Four run above, but the Doom stuff annoyed me. He just didn’t seem like the same character. And that would cost it my vote at least..

I voted for Waid on FF!

Chew is great stuff that I should actually buy instead of just read from the library.

Scott Pilgrim, another library one, was pretty good but I think I’d read enough critiques of the overall story that I wasn’t thrilled with how it turned out.

Locke and Key, I read the FCBD issue from ’11, I think, and just didn’t dig it. The concept sounds great, the art looks good, I like Joe Hill’s writing. It just didn’t click for me.

Slott’s Spidey looks decent but I haven’t read much of it.

I’ve only read the first issue of the Waid/’Ringo FF, but damn, those pages you show are just so good. That whole issue is just so good. One of the best done in ones ever. It’d make my list if we did that ever….

Ed (A Different One)

October 15, 2012 at 7:46 am

Joe Hill is such an engrossing writer that I just get sucked in and don’t notice how innovative Rodriguez is with the art much of the time. That’s a series I’m looking forward to sitting down and re-reading in one decicated stretch after the finale comes out. There’s probably all sorts of interesting things I’ve missed the first time through (I’m discovering that currently in my re-reading of Scalped).

Slott’s ASM run has been consistently good and consistently enjoyable to me. I’m not sure where it would land in an “all-time” list for me, and I don’t think I could judge that accurately at the present time. He’s good, I like him, but he has a tendency to really “leave me cold” every fourth or fifth storyline or so. But he’s probably the strongest Spidey writer to have a prolonged run on the title in recent memory, and definitely “gets” those things that make Spidey enjoyable. It’s a shame though that Waid never really got that same shot to have a prolonged run on the title.

And, yes, I agree with the commentor above the Stern’s run on ASM is second only to the Lee/Ditko/Romita stuff. He always lands respectably on the “best of” lists but people just seem to overlook or forget he’s on there for some reason.

And Martin really did some fine pencils for ASM over the years. I don’t think I’ve ever run into any artist I’ve liked so much despite the fact that I’m not the biggest fan of his visual portrayal of the character. He’s such a great and innovative storyteller that he more than makes up for the “quirkiness” with which he draws the character (“quirky” in my eyes, anyway. I fully realize there are probably legion of fans out there who really like the visual he gives to Spidey).

Last I heard he had moved on from DD (where he was continuing to do some kick ass work) and was going to do some independent/creator-owned work of some kind. Have there been any Martin sightings since he moved on from DD?

Chew – Gross! Hilarious! Mysterious! Ridiculous! Preposterous! And with endless enthusiasm from everyone working on it. Chew is something that could not work in any other medium, and that’s the sign of a great comic.

Fantastic Four – I’ll buy anything from Mark Waid and Mike Wieringo (or did, sadly) and I actually think Waid’s Fantastic Four is better than his Flash run. No writer gets down a more human quality to ridiculous heroes while keeping it from devolving into a soap opera. This makes me wonder: is Waid’s Daredevil going to make an appearance?

Locke & Key – I’ll read it! I’ll read it! Just give me some time!

Spider-Man – Spider-Man’s a really hit-and-miss character, and Slott, in my opinion, made a very hit-and-miss run. Unlike JMS, who started out strong and then went off the rails after JRJR left, Slott is really just on-again off-again. I feel no desire to read the book monthly (or whatever its schedule is now), but if I hear he does a good one, I’m on board. I consider No One Dies and Spider-Island are two of the best Spider-Man stories ever, but Ends of the Earth and Alpha flat for me. But a good run, and the best way to salvage One More Day. Also, I don’t care what anyone says, Humberto Ramos is awesome.

Scott Pilgrim – When I first read this, I basically thought it was a funny if a bit hipster-ish indie comic. Someone told me to really appreciate you had to get your heart broken first. I did. At least I hope I did. Now I think it’s brilliant. And it is. Even if the art in the early volumes is a bit flawed. Good movie too.

Newcomer: Layman/Guillory Chew, #90, 98 points
2008′s #90: Claremont/JRJR X-Men, 106 points

Waid/Wieringo FF 2012: #89, 99 points
Waid/Wieringo FF 2008: #62, 150 points
Down 27 places, -51 points

Newcomer: Hill/Rodriguez Locke & Key, #88, 100 points
2008′s #88: Lee/Ditko Dr. Strange, 108 points

Newcomer: Dan Slott’s Amazing Spider-Man, #87, 102 points
2008′s #87: No entry. Instead, two runs tied for the #86 position. The two tied runs are Roy Thomas’s Avengers and Jim Starlin’s Warlock, at 109 points.

Newcomer: Brian Lee O’Malley’s Scott Pilgrim, #86, 103 points.
2008′s #86: See above.

Only one book returns from 2008 in this portion of the list, Waid/Ringo’s FF. That run is sliding down from a much higher position in 2008. That run was always a divisive one, and it makes sense that readers would cool to it over time.

The rest of this section of the Top 100 is dominated by newcomers, and many of those newcomers are runs that weren’t being published during the 2008 poll. Scott Pilgrim was around, but only available through volume 4.

It’s pretty exciting to see new books, and especially such a diverse selection of them, making an impact in the voting. Most of these runs can probably be expected to make appearances on future Top 100s, too, and possibly higher up the list.

Mark Waid’s run is the only time I’ve ever read the entirety of a Fantastic Four run. Out of all of Marvel’s major properties (F4, Avengers, X-Men, Spider-Man), F4 is the one I never could get into.

I’ve heard fans of the franchise go on about how much he simply “got” the group and how well he fit with the basic principles of the title, but from an outsiders’ perspective, he was phenomenal at making it stand on its own for new readers too. I picked it up with the ten cent issue (And went back and got the few he’d done prior) and didn’t stop reading until Waid left. It was just so wonderfully done on every angle and no one’s ever made Reed Richards nearly as interesting in my view (The fallout from Unthinkable and the subsequent taking over of Latveria straight through to the death scene was just edge of my seat stuff).

“JMS and Conoway weren’t on the 2008 one, but hopefully they can get on this one.”

Having read both JMS and Slott’s runs straight through, I’d have to give the edge to Slott. As someone noted above, JMS pretty much completely went off the rails once Romita Jr. left the title. The first half of his run was fantastic and pushed the boundaries of the Spider titles, but it eventually just started bordering on silly.

I just feel Slott’s been consistently good for a higher percentage of his time on the title. There’s plenty of time for him to go off the rails, but it hasn’t happened yet.

I’m with Jason Scott. Doom was way out of character in Waid’s attempt to “bad him up”, and that would have killed the run as a nominee for me.

Not a knock on Slott’s run, just an observation: So they “HAD” to get rid of MJ because there are “far more problems” dating than having a model for a wife….but after they get rid of her to make him same old, kicked in the face, Peter, he’s an Avenger and successful (with stipend, I assume) on multiple teams, and has a GREAT job… but none of these things makes him too successful to “relate to.” Yeah…ok.

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