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2012 Top 100 Comic Book Runs #40-36

You voted, now here are the results of your votes for your favorite comic book creator runs of all-time! We’ll be revealing five runs a day for most of the month. Here is a master list of all of the runs revealed so far.

Here’s the next five runs…

40. Los Bros Hernandez’s Love and Rockets – 231 points (8 first place votes)

Love and Rockets #1-50, Love and Rockets Vol. 2 #1-20, Love and Rockets: New Stories #1-current (#5)

Love and Rockets is one of the greatest comic book anthologies ever, and it’s quite impressive to note that it is an anthology that is made up of just one family – the Hernandez brothers, primarily Gilbert and Jaime, although brother Mario occasionally chips in, as well.

Each brother primarily tells their own epic tale, while occasionally peppering in one-off stories.

Gilbert’s was Palomar, which was the goings-on of a fictional South American village. Gilbert later used one of the characters from Palomar, Luba, exclusively.

Jaime’s was Hoppers 13 (which, when the stories were collected, was titled Locas), about two women, Maggie and Hopey, and their developing friendship.

As you can tell, both brothers are known for the work they do with strong female characters, but they’re mostly known for their ability to tell stories about realistic characters, while using a seemingly simplistic art style to do so, sort of sneaking the deep stuff past you with the simple artwork.

One of their most famous stories was the death of Speedy Ortiz, a young man who had a past relationship with Maggie and who is now in the middle of a gang conflict after dating Maggie’s younger sister (who was also dating another gang leader). Speedy likes to present a tough front but Hernandez lets us see how conflicted he is underneath, but how his indecisiveness runs rough shot over Maggie’s feelings…

Tough stuff, but beautifully depicted by Hernandez.

The second Love and Rockets series was a good deal of time after the first one and Love and Rockets: New Stories is a new extra-sized annual format, so they probably shouldn’t count as part of the “run,” but eh, if you’re interested in these characters, you might as well know that there is a current comic book series with them coming out.

39. Mike Mignola’s Hellboy – 247 points (6 first place votes)

Hellboy: Seed of Destruction #1-4 in 1995, then lots of mini-series ever since then.

It’s funny, when Hellboy began, there was some concern (even from Mignola himself) as to how Mignola would handle the writing side of things. We all knew it would look amazing (as it is Mike Mignola we’re talking about here) but how would the stories be? Well, such concern was unwarranted as Mignola turned out to possibly be an even better writer than he is an artist, which is shocking considering how good of an artist he is.

In any event, Hellboy is a demon who was called to Earth while a child by a group of Nazi occultists during World War II. He spurned the attempts of the Nazis to use him for evil. Instead, he joined up with Allied Forces, in particular a Professor who raised this “hell boy” as his own child. In this nature versus nurture argument, nurture won out as Hellboy grew up to be a strong force for good and he helped the Professor form the Bureau for Paranormal Research and Defense (BPRD).

The BPRD are a fascinating group in their own right, and have since spun off to their own long-running comic book series, co-written by Mignola.

In Hellboy, Mignola explores a great variety of folklore tales and different takes on great literature ideas. The character of Hellboy is such an open concept (he can adapt to action, adventure, horror or fantasy with great ease) that Mignola can really do whatever he wants with the series, and the result has been a variety of fascinating stories.

Most of them have been accompanied by Mignola’s own great artwork, but in recent years, he has had other artists draw the book, all of whom are greatly talented themselves (Richard Corben and Duncan Fegredo are probably the two other most notable Hellboy artists).

Here’s a bit from the first Hellboy story written entirely by Mignola (he originally had John Byrne script the feature)…

Man, Mignola is AWEsome.

38. Alan Moore’s Marvelman/Miracleman – 254 points (6 first place votes)

Warrior #1-21, Miracleman #7-16 (#1-6 reprinted the Warrior stories)

Marvelman was invented in the 1950s when Fawcett quit making Captain Marvel stories, leaving L. Miller & Son, who reprinted the Marvel Family titles in England, without a star character. Mick Anglo whipped up a new character (without being TOO new, if you know what I mean), and Marvelman continued in the place of Captain Marvel until the comic was canceled in the early 60s.

Two decades later, in the pages of Quality International’s anthology, the Warrior, Alan Moore and Garry Leach brought Marvelman back, only with a postmodern edge. Reporter Michael Moran keeps having crazy dreams about superpowers, until he says the magic word, “Kimota!” and is transformed into Marvelman!

It is soon revealed that the Marvelman stories of the past were part of a government experiment with fusing alien technology with humans, to create superhumans, and the government filled the heads of Marvelman, Young Marvelman, Marvelwoman and Kid Marvelman with memories of superpowered adventures, and then tried to kill them when their experiments were over. The nuke meant to kill them all only killed Young Marvelman. Marvelman just became Michael Moran, and forgot about it all, until his memory returned.

Kid Marvelman, meanwhile, had gone mad with power, and was now a sociopathic killer. Marvelman fights him, and gets him to say HIS magic word, turning back to a young boy named Johnny Bates. Bates is placed into a group home.

The rest of the Warrior run detailed the history of how Miracleman formed, as well as learning that Moran’s girlfriend, Liz, was pregnant. During the Warrior run, Alan Davis also drew a great deal of the stories.

After legal problems from Marvel over the name “Marvelman,” Quality sold their rights to Eclipse Comics, who changed the name of the title to Miracleman, and started a new title, first reprinting the Warrior stories (which were done in black and white originally) and then starting new stories, this time with different artists, such as Chuck Beckum (Chuck Austen), Rick Veitch and most notably Moore’s former Swamp Thing inker, John Totleben, who drew perhaps the most famous Miracleman storyline, where young Johnny Bates is sexually assaulted during his stay in the group home, forcing him to turn into Kid Marvelman again, who has now just totally snapped, leading to an amazingly graphic single-handed destruction of London – it’s waaaaaaaaaay beyond the pale.

Miracleman (with help of some other heroes) finds a way to force Kid Miracleman to turn back into Johnny, and Miracleman has to make a dreadful choice…

Chilling.

Moore left the book to Neil Gaiman after this storyline, with Moore’s last issue being #16. Gaiman wrote the book until Eclipse went out of business after #24.

37. Stan Lee and John Romita’s Spider-Man – 262 points (3 first place votes)

Amazing Spider-Man #39-71, 74-75, 81 (as inker), 82-88, 89-92 (as inker), 93-95, 96 (as inker)

When John Romita took over from Steve Ditko, he was clearly trying not to change too much of what was, at the time, quite a winning formula, but soon, Romita had changed the book’s visuals dramatically, specifically his depiction of Peter Parker. Gone was the skinny, goofy looking kid of Ditko’s run – Romita’s Peter was quite handsome.

Tying in with Romita’s ability to draw attractive people, Gwen Stacy and Mary Jane Watson became major characters during this time, as Romita sure did love to draw pretty girls. His depiction of Peter’s first meeting with Mary Jane has become the stuff of comic book legend.

Meanwhile, Romita was also quite fluent in the world of superhero action, so the book was filled with a lot of action, as well. What Romita did differently from Ditko was to both make the book a bit more colorful, and most importantly, open up the book a bit more – Ditko was all about economy – Ditko liked to tell a long story through extensive panel usage. Romita used less panels, and opened up the look of the comic – much more expansive.

During his tenure with Stan Lee, the book saw the introduction of the Kingpin, who has become one of the most notable Marvel villains of all time, as well as the famous storyline where Peter decides to quit becoming Spider-Man.

John Romita’s run opened up with a legendary cover…

which has become an iconic drawing, and continued with more iconic drawings than you could shake a stick at, if you wanted to shake a stick at iconic drawings, that is.

For instance…

and…

As he was preparing to leave the book, Romita even inked incoming artist, Gil Kane, so that the transition would go smoothly. Romita would do this for later artists, as well, and even after he was totally off of the book interiors-wise, he continued to draw the covers of the issues, so Romita’s influence on the comic lasted for quite a long time.

36. Mark Waid’s Flash – 263 points (6 first place votes)

Flash #62-129, plus a #0 (#118-129 co-written with Brian Augustyn, and interestingly enough, the book actually changed titles from Flash to The Flash at #101)

Mark Waid burst on the scene with Flash by giving readers “Kid Flash – Year One,” which was a touching tribute to the beginnings of Wally’s career, and a clear note that Waid’s stories were going to be ones that stressed characterization first.

One piece of characterization that Waid picked up from outgoing writer, Bill Loebs, was the relationship between Wally and his friend, Linda Park. Loebs had slowly built up an intriguing friendship between the two, but it was Waid who made the friendship a full-fledged romance, leading to the centerpiece of Waid’s run on Flash – the love between Wally and Linda.

After a storyline with Abra Kadabra (if I picked up a random issue of Waid’s run and asked you, “Who’s the villain?,” you’d have about a 50/50 shot if you said Abra Kadabra), Waid launched probably his most memorable storyline, where he had Barry Allen seemingly return from the dead. Seeing Wally’s reactions to both Barry’s return and the realization that bad things were happening was probably the point where Waid’s Wally West became a true adult. It was a beautiful coming of age storyline, and it also introduced Max Mercury, a cool new character that Waid had come up with, a zen-like fellow (who is ostensibly based on some old Golden Age hero).

Waid’s next big storyline introduced Impulse, the young cousin of Wally from the future, who was raised in virtual reality, so he had, well, an impulse problem. Young Bart Allen became Wally’s sorta sidekick, and soon gained his own spin-off title (bringing Max with him as his guardian).

Perhaps the masterstroke of his run was the development of the “Speed Force,” an almost mystical energy field that gave all speedsters their powers. During a big storyline leading up to #100, Wally was absorbed into the Speed Force, leaving Bart and the other speedsters (Johnny Quick, Max Mercury, the Golden Age Flash, Jay Garrick, and Johnny Quick’s daughter, Jesse) to defend the Flash’s city, along with Linda (she is the narrator of the issue, and she makes a point to note that she no longer believes in miracles after Wally’s death).

However, Flash manages to pull himself out of the force, all based on the power of his love for Linda.

Awwww….

After that moment, I’ll be frank, the book’s momentum slows a bit for the rest of Waid’s run. There’s a storyline with this guy who can steal the Speed Force from people, and then there’s a story where Wally gets lost in time and replaced by John Fox, the Flash from the future, who is a bit of a jerk. Then there’s a few short storylines before Waid and Augustyn (originally Waid’s editor on the book, and became his co-writer with #118) took a break with #129. They would return in a year’s time for a new run that ended with #159 (#162 for Augustyn), and the marriage of Wally and Linda. Waid would return years later in #231 for a short run with Wally, Linda, and their two children (who also had powers).

Waid began the book with incumbent artist, Greg LaRocque, who stayed on the book until the end of the Return of Barry Allen. The late, great Mike Wieringo would take over, and draw the book for about 20 issues or so, helping to create Impulse with Waid. After #100, Waid had a string of young artists work on the book (most of whom would go on to big things after their time on Flash, like Salvador Larroca and Jimmy Cheung), and his first run finished with Paul Ryan supplying the artwork.

37 Comments

I am still 1/10 (My number 10 pick Strange Tales)

However, because of the 2008 list..I actually tracked down Waid’s run and really enjoyed it overall. I don’t think it holds up as well…but it is still overall alot of fun. You can absolutely tell that Abra Kadabra is a favorite of his, and I think the best part of his run was he made Linda Park Wally’s equal, never portrayed as a damsel in distress.

Of course Lee/Romita’s run is also pretty damn good. The couple of issues of Hellboy I have read have also been enjoyable.

Huge fan of both Hellboy and Waid’s Flash. Can’t say I enjoy Love and Rockets; and I’m neutral on the Romita Spidey ( I just detest Lee’s style of dialogue, but love JR’s art).

Still sitting at 2 of 10… so my stuff MUST be really popular ;D

So I guess at this point its confirmed Roy Thomas Avengers, Mike Grells Arrow, Chrisopher Priests Black Panther, and Mark Gruenwalds Cap aren’t making it?

I love Love & Rockets… quite like the next three and don’t quite get the love for Waid’s Flash. I don’t think it is bad but nothing worthy of inclusion on a list like this. Different strokes and all…

Some familiarity with all of these, although only one or two issues, long ago, of “Love & Rockets,” I believe.

I was blown away by Moore’s Miracleman when I first encountered it, but I don’t go back and reread what I have of it at frequent intervals. (In fact, I’m far from clear on when I last did that. Nor when I last read his “V for Vendetta,” for that matter.)

I own some Hellboy TPBs, but it never occurred to me to vote for any of that material. I don’t love Hellboy’s stories; I just find them reasonably entertaining, most of the time. There’s a difference!

It’s easier for me to understand why people voted for the Waid and Lee/Romita runs (although I didn’t feel particularly tempted).

We’re now nearly 2/3 of the way through, and I’ve still only seen 1 run from my ballot. (Will Eisner on “The Spirit.”) Still hoping to see 4 more make it — a common problem here is that some of my other picks have never been reprinted in full in multiple TPBs for modern fans to stumble across when they’re browsing through the LCS.

Love & Rockets: My number 1 pick, and I still haven’t read the New Stories. Palomar is my favorite long-form comic book story. Beto built up the characters and stories masterfully, and his of magical realism worked best when it was kept grounded by the town and its inhabitants. Jaime’s art is among the best in modern comics, and his storytelling is brilliant. The Locas stories are an engrossing read. L&R lives up to its reputation.

Hellboy: It’s funny to read this:

“We all knew it would look amazing (as it is Mike Mignola we’re talking about here)”

when I remember Mignola as that guy who drew that weird Wolverine story and that X-Force fill-in artist whose art didn’t look at all like Liefeld’s. A lot of us adolescent fans had a pretty low opinion of his work.

Then, Hellboy came out and we went on about how we’d alwayas loved his art.

MarvelMiracleman: never read it, hoping and praying it’s reprinted legally someday.

Lee/ Romita Spider-Man: I recognize the merits of this run, but I can’t help thinking of it as Not Ditko. That’s my hang-up, but I find most Not Ditko Spider-Man comics bland until the ’80s.

Waid Flash: I’m surprised the issues between Born to Run & Return of Barry Allen haven’t been reprinted, as the ones I’ve read are pretty good. DC’s trade policy has not made sense until relatively recently. Anyway, I’ve read the stories collected in trade and several individual issues between the “big” stories. I like this run a great deal. This version of Wally is missed. Has Impulse 1-26 shown up yet? I liked it even better than Waid’s Flash.

Miracleman almost made my list…it is truly great. I didn’t realize that Warrior magazine only printed issues 1-6…that’s quite a cliffhanger they would have ended on, isn’t it?

Still nothing from my list but I fully expect to see seven of the picks popping up (knew Denny O’Neil’s Daredevil run was a longshot, even with the Mazzuchelli art…)

Love & Rockets by far is the best run presented on this instalment. Not to take anything away from the others. This batch is a marked improvement. No true arguments from me. Just absolute praise for Jamie and Roberto. The new stuff is just as good…maybe better. Jamie did his take on Superhero’s which was fun. These guys love comics and have been creating two worlds for the price of one that celebrate comics, wrestling, women, superheros, cars, mystery, love, Latino culture, punk rock, sex, childhood, celebrity and positive body images. I would recommend jumping in now, they have collected the works in a more linear format and there are annotated guides coming out soon. These are character driven top of the line storytelling comics. Enjoy.

Lee and Romita Spider-Man I “sort of” voted for. I placed my vote as “Stan Lee’s non-co-plotted Spider-Man,” consisting of the whole thing from 39-110 (less the three Roy Thomas issues of course). I don’t really get the logic of omitting the Gil Kane drawn issues, as they fill a major part of Stan’s stellar solo run (including the “Harry’s drug overdose” stuff) but it’s your poll Brain so I’ll abide by your rules. I’m very happy at least that one of mine made the list!

Glad to see that there’s still plenty of love for Mark Waid’s Flash, which I’m in the middle of re-reading right now, coincidentally. I just hope that Geoff Johns Flash doesn’t show up on this list, as I think Waid’s is FAR superior. As much as I love Geoff Johns as a writer (looking forward to seeing his GL somewhere high on this list), I never got into his Flash.

joe the poor speller

October 22, 2012 at 11:33 am

I sure need to read more Hellboy. Still 3/10.

Why is it near impossible to find trades of Marvel Man? I’ve almost read everything Alan Moores ever done but I can’t get a hold if this.

Love and Rockets 2012: #40, 231 points
Love and Rockets 2008: #35, 236 points
Down 5 places, -5 points

Hellboy 2012: #39, 247 points
Hellboy 2008: #51, 179 points
Up 12 places, +68 points

Marvelman 2012: #38, 254 points
Marvelman 2008: #36, 234 points
Down 2 places, -20 points

Lee/Romita Spider-Man 2012: #37, 262 points
Lee/Romita Spider-Man 2008: #34, 270 points
Down 3 places, -8 points

Waid’s Flash 2012: #36, 263 points
Waid’s 1st Flash Run 2008: #39, 228 points
Up 3 places, +35 points
(Despite the slightly different names, these two entries cover the same issues.)

We’re entering a run of the Top 100 dominated by runs that occupy roughly the same places they did in the 2008 Top 100. Lee/Romita’s Spider-Man and Love and Rockets have virtually unchanged point totals from 2008, and as a result slide gently down the Top 100 a few notches. While Marvelman loses a number of points and Waid’s Flash gains a greater number, it’s not enough to move them more than a few places up or down.

The one big change we see in this part of the Top 100 is Hellboy, which climbs a significant 12 places and gains 68 points. I’m not sure how well Hellboy does in trade, but I figure it’s all collected. The saga has definitely continued to develop over the years since the 2008 voting, which would explain the increased interest. Hellboy may be one run that just continues to climb the charts in the future.

Hmm those Marvelman panels…oozing with thick pathos…

Might be time for a re-read.

Another of my picks (Hellboy) made it :)

Lee and Romita Spider-Man I “sort of” voted for. I placed my vote as “Stan Lee’s non-co-plotted Spider-Man,” consisting of the whole thing from 39-110 (less the three Roy Thomas issues of course). I don’t really get the logic of omitting the Gil Kane drawn issues, as they fill a major part of Stan’s stellar solo run (including the “Harry’s drug overdose” stuff) but it’s your poll Brain so I’ll abide by your rules. I’m very happy at least that one of mine made the list!

You can include them if you’d like, it’s not like it affected the votes or anything, ya know?

This is the round of “never read ‘em” for me, with only the Lee/Romita Spider-Man representing anything I’ve read the majority of before (I’ve read drips and drabs of Hellboy and Waid’s Flash). Total coincidence, but interesting how that can happen…

A lot of good ones here. I’ve only read some of Waid’s Flash but I’ve liked what I’ve seen. The others are pure gold, especially L&R.

Aaron: The Gaiman/McFarlane legal fight over Marvelman means that the trades can’t be reprinted, and they’re long out of print. You can find the single issues more easily than you can find the trades.

That makes 3/10 for me with the appearance of Waid’s “Flash.” Such a great run, and it’s good to see it ranked so high. DC really needs to collect the rest of it; half of the trades they do have of Waid’s run don’t even collect his best stuff from the run.

I’ve read a couple of issues of “Love and Rockets” here and there; they were well-made comics with nice art, but I never felt any real desire to seek out more.

I love Hellboy. The comics are loads of fun, and I’m glad to see it on here even though there wasn’t space for it in my top ten. Ditto the Lee/Romita ASM run. (I only had room for one ASM run in my top ten!)

Never read “Miracleman.” I’ll be happy to buy it in trades if it ever emerges from legal purgatory.

Ah, Lee/Romita Spider-Man. Incredible, incredible stuff. I actually hadn’t read most of their run until just a year or two ago, and it blew me away with its quality.

A lot of to be read for me here.

Love & Rockets obviously has a huge following and I would like to get to it, but not sure when.

I’ve read the first 2 trades of Hellboy and thought they were pretty good. This entire universe’s series are on my to read very soon list.

Marvelman/Miracleman is something that looks awesome, too bad it’s hard to find.

I’ve read the first 2 Lee/Romita Spidey issues with the Green Goblin through the Masterworks tpb’s and I need to get the next few to continue my reading. The switch from Ditko to Romita was pretty jarring, but both are obviously very, very talented artists.

I am piecing together Waid’s Flash run. I would say that I have about 80% of the run, but have yet to read much of it. I acquired most of it when I was a kid during the 90′s when I was more concerned with practicing to become a comic artist than reading the actual stories

Waid’s Flash run (no pun intended) was my favorite. It’s a damn shame DC has erased Wally from the DCU. I’ll never forgive them for it.

Lee/Romita Spidey is the first from my list to appear.

Love and Rockets – I just received the collected edition of Palomar for my birthday, and I’m about a quarter of the way through it. If I had gotten further I definitely would have voted for it, but alas, I’m at least glad it made it so high for an indie book, and an anthology book at that. The way Gilbert manage to combine artful prose and realistic sounding dialogue while still keeping the story image focused is something many writers only dream of. The only thing written by Jaime that I have is Death of Speedy, which just arrived from Amazon today.

Hellboy – Only read pieces here and there, and I though I have occasional problems with Mignola’s dialogue feeling a tad one-noted and flat, his stories are engaging and his art is always firing on all cylinders. More and more artists keep trying to pull a Mignola-style, but none of them are really good at it (looking at you, Scott McDaniel).

Miracleman – Just waiting for it to get reprinted. I know it’ll have to happen someday. Speaking of which, I wonder how many people voted for it who haven’t actually read it.

Spider-Man – Hmmm… This is another area which is going to make me a bit unpopular. I don’t hate this run, I don’t even dislike it, but it paved a path for Spider-Man that it’s never really recovered from. When Ditko was on the title, it was a really inventive and really cool subversive take on traditional superheroes as well as an interesting method of staging morality plays for the youth in the country. With the revelation that Norman Osborn was the Green Goblin, Spider-Man really was on the road to becoming a full-blown soap opera. Every villain was personally attached to Peter, all of Peter’s problems went from being realistic places to ground the character to contrived plot twists and complicated love triangles. I’ve heard that Romita returned to Spider-Man after doing romance comics for many years and it’s clear that that become a major component in the book. As you pointed out, Brian, Peter went from being a nerdy teenager to hearthrob, and MJ and Gwen just rounded out the package. I still like it, but from here on, Spider-Man became too much of an insane tapestry to worry about.

Flash – Oh yeah! Wally West IS the Flash and Mark Waid is writing him. Here is a great example of telling a drama about a young character growing into a man while keeping it from becoming a soap opera. Linda Park is a full-on character, not just some bimbo for Wally to rescue. Impulse is wonderful. The speed force is a great concept that lent itself so many more creative ideas, and it’s all full of classic stories. I know a lot of people like Return of Barry Allen, but Terminal Velocity really is the best (hell, you could finish the run with Terminal Velocity and never read another Flash story and it would be satisfying). Great to see it here, and it’s also good to see that people haven’t forgotten about it when it’s out of print. My one concern: does this mean that Geoff Johns’ Flash isn’t showing up? I hope that’s not the case, because it took me forever to choose between Waid and Johns and I finally went with the latter due to the Rogues stories. No one can call Captain Cold a lightweight Mr. Freeze ever again.

Mark Waid’s 1st Flash run was one of the few reasons to read superhero comics in the early 90s. The first 3 or so years of it especially was nothing short of spectacular.

And Lee/Romita Spider-Man was great stuff as well. It’s kind of a shame that so many people see it as “less than Ditko’s run” because it really truly was high quality enough to stand up to anything else ever done on the character.

Mike Loughlin

Waid Flash: I’m surprised the issues between Born to Run & Return of Barry Allen haven’t been reprinted, as the ones I’ve read are pretty good. DC’s trade policy has not made sense until relatively recently. Anyway, I’ve read the stories collected in trade and several individual issues between the “big” stories. I like this run a great deal. This version of Wally is missed. Has Impulse 1-26 shown up yet? I liked it even better than Waid’s Flash.

If you’re into digital comics, in some weeks all (I hope) of Waid’s issues will be available at Comixology . I know that “Terminal Velocity”, “Born to Run” and “Dead Heat” are available (as individual issues) …
Every issue of the Baron and Messner-Loebs’ runs is available .

“Every issue of the Baron and Messner-Loebs’ runs is available .”

Some great, great comics there!

Those iconic Romita images (MJ, Spidey No More, Unmasked) just cannot be denied. Also, Romita’s influence on the 60′s cartoon was huge, and power of that cartoon cannot be underestimated. Without Romita, it’s likely that Spider-Man wold be a mere pop footnote. Even so, the Ditko stuff is still the best!

@ Mannymade1

I can’t believe Brian Bendis’ Avengers would make this list and Roy Thomas wouldn’t; I’d say he had the greatest run on the book, what with the introduction of characters like Ulron and Vision, the evolution of Hank Pym into Yellow Jacket (including the wonderfully wacky wedding) and his crown jewel, Kree-Skrull War

Yeah, it looks like Roy Thomas’ Avengers isn’t going to be on the list (Same goes for Mike Grell’s Green Arrow, which was already mentioned).

The real tragedy though is Roy Thomas’ Conan not making the list. I’d have a hard time selecting even ten runs on the list so far that are on the same level as the old Marvel Conan comics.

Waid’s Flash is still a favorite of mine. Great character moments, exciting storylines, and the art was top motch…. Until the end of the the John Fox future storyline. I didn’t realise it till now, but that is right around the time Augustyn came on board. Everything else after – including 2 more stints on the book. just really didn’t do it for me.

Ed (A Different One)

October 24, 2012 at 11:40 am

You know it’s funny, back in the day I used to think that Hellboy was just a Savage Dragon rip-off. A child “monster” is found under mysterious circumstance and against all odds grows up to be on the side of “good” (Hellboy as a BPRD agent Dragon as a cop). Their power sets are roughly the same (tough as nails and strong as the proverbial ox). But after taking the time to read it, Hellboy is so much deeper. And the art – don’t get me started on a Mignola vs. Larsen comparison. No contest there.

Interesting how “similar” characters make for such different titles. Blowing off Hellboy was the biggest mistake I almost made . . .

@Ed, all comic superheros are ripped off from something prior (sometimes subconsciously…traditionally not so much). That said, I never made the connection. Savage Dragon and Hellboy never reminded me of each other. Both Larson and Mignola are so different in storytelling and illustrative styles. It took me years to get the apeal of Larson after he took over for Todd on Amazing Spidy. Now I get it, storytelling and commitment. Mignola was different, astheticly I love his work (my first atempt at coloring comics was an assigned Mignola page…fun). However, despite trying, I could never get into the comic. I confess the first film made me a fan of Hellboy not the comic. Savage Dragon is just something I respect. I am still not a fan.

So sad DC has erased Wally from existence. To me he will always be THE Flash. Glad fans appreciate his tenure as the Fastest Man Alive.

5 great books in this batch.

Hellboy represents my first vote to show up. It was my #10, and I felt like the last spot on my list should go to something that I just totally enjoy and read because it’s damn fun. The way Burgas sometimes says COMICS!, I feel like there’s nothing that applies to better than Hellboy. And Mignola executes it so damn well. This was also the first time I began getting a series in trade specifically instead of buying the comics on the stands, because Mignola started filling the trades with so much cool extra shit, including commentaries on the creation of all the stories. My #9, Sleeper, won’t be showing up at this point, but my top 8 will al be in the top 30.

Miracleman is amazing, in a toss-up with Supreme for my second favorite Moore run (after Swamp Thing, which was my #1 vote). While I have no data to back this up, I suspect that Miracleman has a higher percentage of people that have actually read it also voting for it than anything else on the countdown. While most voters obviously haven’t read it, it wouldn’t shock me if more than half of the people that have read it also voted for it. It will be really interesting to see how it performs on this poll once it eventually gets reprinted, in 4, 8, 12, or however many damn years it takes. Wouldn’t shock me at all to see it regularly appear in the top 15-20 once it’s readily available.

I’ve only read snippets of Lee/Romita Spidey, but I think ASM #50 is a strong contender for greatest single issue of the silver age.

And Waid’s Flash definitely had some weak stretches, but overall it was probably the greatest iteration of the character. I voted for The Return of Barry Allen in the storylines poll a few years ago, and I think it’s one of the quintessential stories of the DC Universe. To me, the DCU is all about how characters change and evolve, how batons get passed, and how the continuity is used to tell great stories (well, at least all of this was true before Didio & Johns hijacked the company), and The Return of Barry Allen was one of the earliest and greatest examples of the types of stories that DC became really good at. I also love Waid & Ramos’s Impulse run, and I think it’s one of the great forgotten/unappreciated runs out there. It was the perfect mix of writer/artist/character/tone.

Wow, I totally thought L&R was at least on my long list. I guess I didn’t think of it as a “run” for some reason. It definitely should have been on my long list, as it is one of my faves. I’m dumb.

Other great comics anthologies — Dark Horse Presents. Negative Burn. 2000 AD. Any others?

Hellboy — great stuff from what I’ve read. The only “bad thing” is that with its success, there are numerous other “occult investigator”-types around, very few of whom are anywhere near as good.

Miracleman — Man, I’ve passed up the chance to get some of this series twice! Once in Toronto on a school trip, I passed by a trade in a bookstore, but decided against it, and more recently at a con the Eclipse issues were available from a dealer. A bit too much for me at that time. Grr. But I’ve read plenty about it, and I do actually have the first issue, and the 3D issue.

JRSR on Spidey — good stuff, from what I’ve read. That was the first full appearance of MJ, right? As much as I loves Ditko, I doubt she would be as beloved if Ditko had drawn her first. Just my opinion.

Waid’s Flash — was on my long list, but it didn’t make my 10. Between not reading enough of it, and as you say, the post-100 issues dragging, it just didn’t make it for me. Plus, I think I originally tried for runs that were writer AND artist, and none of the artists ever seemed to last.

However, it was great when I first jumped on with 92, the first full Impulse appearance. Great intro with Wally at a basketball court, Linda’s there, just such a good issue. Waid was very good at giving us that “I’m Wally West, I’m the Fastest Man Alive” intro to each issue and making it seem unforced each time. God forbid today’s writers tell you who’s who!

But after 100, it seemed more like Wally’s love for Linda was told to us rather than shown.

Still, I should back issue dive and finish out my collection.

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