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2012 Top 100 Comic Book Runs #6-5

You voted, now here are the results of your votes for your favorite comic book creator runs of all-time! We’ll be revealing two runs a day for the rest of the month. Here is a master list of all of the runs revealed so far.

Here’s the next two runs…

6. Stan Lee and Steve Ditko’s Amazing Spider-Man – 849 points (24 first place votes)

Amazing Fantasy #15, Amazing Spider-Man #1-38, plus two Annuals

Simply put, these are the two guys who literally CREATED Spider-Man. The forty-one issues that the two did together contain pretty much everything you need for a Spider-Man comic book today.

Heck, just a cursory look at the characters that they invented is staggering. Peter Parker. Aunt May. Uncle Ben. Flash Thompson. J. Jonah Jameson. The Vulture. Doctor Octopus. Sandman. Chameleon. Electro. Lizard. Green Goblin. Kraven the Hunter. Mysterio. Betty Brant. Harry Osborn. Gwen Stacy. Liz Allen.

And, of course, most memorably, Fancy Dan.

But simply naming characters that they created is only getting a surface look at what Ditko and Lee did to comics with Spider-Man. Lee had already done the whole “Superheroes with real life problems” idea in Fantastic Four, but Ditko and Lee took it to a whole other level with Spider-Man. When there was a happy ending in an issue of Spider-Man, it was a shocker! And yet, even as Peter Parker went through personal trauma after personal trauma after personal trauma, it never made the book feel like it was just a sludge. That is in part because of Lee’s scripting, which always tempered Ditko’s plots with a certain devil-may-care attitude that, hey, as bad as things are, you gotta keep going.

As for the art on the series, Steve Ditko is one of the all-time great superhero/supervillain designers, coming up with a variety of costumes that are basically used today to the TEE. Spider-Man has had another costume, but really, the blue and the red costume is what he wears in the comics today and in all of the media adaptations (although the new movie is slightly different). And 50 years later, it is still that same Ditko design. Characters like Elektro, Vulture and Mysterio have gone through various looks but they always return to that awesome Ditko design.

Green Goblin, Kraven, Fancy Dan, the list goes on of iconic character looks that Ditko created.

But not only that, Ditko is a brilliant sequential storyteller, able to pack in SO much story into every issue of Amazing Spider-Man. These things are like freaking TOMES! The origin of Spider-Man in Amazing Fantasy is, like, a page and a half (okay, 11 pages) and Ditko makes it feel like it is seven issues long. The same continued in his run on Amazing Spider-Man. He packed SO much story into every issue while never making the panels boring.

This is, of course, highlighted by perhaps the single most famous sequence in Spider-Man history, a bit that has “inspired” countless Spider-Man stories ever since, the classic Amazing Spider-Man #33, which combines Ditko’s powerful storytelling abilities with the general direction of Lee/Ditko stories – things are really shitty, but Spider-Man has to keep on keeping on…

The combination of Ditko’s compelling plots and Lee’s snappy dialogue made this pair a dream team that we will likely never see again, a pairing where each man needed the other for the book to be as transcendentally popular as it became.

5. Brian K. Vaughan, Pia Guerra and Jose Marzan’s Y the Last Man – 855 points (23 first place votes)

Y the Last Man #1-60, Pia Guerra drew #1-15, 18-20, 24-30, 36-39, 43-46, 49-52, 55-60. Marzan inked the whole shebang

By the time Brian K. Vaughan began Y the Last Man, he had already had a previous series for Vertigo, Swamp Thing, which told the story of the daughter of Swamp Thing. So while folks respected his talents, I don’t think anyone was expecting Vaughan to launch the next big Vertigo title, but that’s exactly what he did, along with book co-creator and artist, Pia Guerra.

The concept of the book was simple – one day, all the men on Earth die. All the men, that is, except young amateur escape artist Yorick Brown and his monkey, Ampersand. They’re the only two males alive on the entire planet, and, as you might imagine, hilarity ensues.

Seriously, though, Yorick (who is freaking out because he JUST proposed to his girlfriend, Beth, over the phone when the plague hit, and she’s all the way in Australia!!) is tasked to first travel to find Dr. Allison Mann, a geneticist who needs to study Yorick to discover what happened and if they could reverse it. Along with Yorick on his journey is this government agent, Agent 355, who serves as Yorick’s bodyguard. Once they find Dr. Mann, the four (counting Ampersand) travel the country and the world in their mission to save the planet from dying out.

The relationship between these four characters (mainly the three human ones) forms the main focus of the series. So I’ll show you a few sample pages to get the dynamic they shared on their trip across the United States…

Along the way, they (and we, the reader) find out how the world has been coping with the loss of all the world’s men. It’s fascinating and touching stuff.

The big villains of the piece are the Daughters of the Amazon, psychos who think that this is a big sign from the Goddess that the Y chromosome has been expunged from Earth and Alter Tse’elon, the head of an Israeli commando team who is crazed with the desire to hunt Yorick down.

One of the ongoing plots of the series was, of course, Yorick’s quest for his girlfriend, Beth (and the confusion that arises when he meets another intriguing woman named Beth).

Pia Guerra’s artwork was clean and perfect for the character-based stories Vaughan developed for the series. As you can see, she needed some assistance often, and Goran Sudzuka was her co-penciler (trading off on arcs) for the last forty or so issues of the title. Jose Marzan, Jr. inked the entire series.

For the top five, I figure I’ll give TWO samples, so I’ll share a bit from one of the more notable arcs of the series, Safeword, where an agent of the Culper Ring (the group 355 works for) puts Yorick through what amounts to an intense form of therapy that seems like torture (her intent is to cure Yorick of what she sees as suicidal tendencies in him). At one point, she forces him to reveal his first sexual experience with a member of the opposite sex and this scene is perhaps the most memorable sequence in the entire series…

Striking and disturbing, but a fascinating glimpse into Yorick’s mind.

45 Comments

Stan and Steve’s Spidey was my #2. Such a great run, one of those runs that’s the definition of what we’re looking at here.

I totally agree about how much Ditko packed into the origin (11 pages!!! Is there ANY creator around today that can do something that good, that amazing [ha!] in that few pages today?), and I like the subtle way you wrote this to emphasize Ditko’s contribution.

Chills looking at those pages again. Chills.

And hell yeah Fancy Dan!

And then I believe I gasped. Y the Last Man number 5? Would NOT have guessed that. Not at all. I read the first trade, and it’s ok stuff, but I haven’t been clamoring to get the rest.

Dr Mann? Really?

(side note, in the long paragraph above the first set of Y pages, you have it as AmBersand.)

Since this is a creator based list, I wonder if point-wise, this means BKV scored the highest? He’s gotta be up there. I’ll probably math geek it out, if Lynxara or Burgas don’t beat me to it.

I guess Saga will be on here next time….

Unless there’s a surprise surge for Stanley and Tripp’s Little Lulu, I don’t think any more of my picks will make it on. Well, my official 10, that is. I gave Brian a list of 13 because I wasn’t sure if one of mine would count. Not even gonna guess in my own head what might still be on this list now. Y came out of nowhere for my thinking. It helps that I didn’t look at the last list.

I think Grant Morrison might be on top, point wise.

Someone will math geek it out, but I’m almost certain Morrison will be ahead of BKV. Maybe by a lot, he’s had several runs in the top 20 or so, and I haven’t been paying too close attention, but I think he might have another left.

The Lee/Ditko Spider-Man stories are wonderful. I first read them when Marvel Tales was reprinting them in the Eighties, and they became an instant favourite of mine. As a kid I had never understood what people saw in Ditko’s art until I read these.

All male organism die in the same second?
Was this plotted by an 8 year old?

then you have those cliffhanger that make 30ies serials look like refined art.
whole characters that are just there to justify the incredibly stupid gender cliches.

Y the last man belongs in the negative top100.

Lee/Ditko Spider-Man was obvious. Not much to say about it. Easily the best Spider-Man comics of all time.

Y: The Last Man is a surprise. Didn’t expect it to be anywhere near this high on the list. I guess that makes it the new Sandman, i.e. a series with only cult level sales but an absolutely fanatical fanbase.

Y the last man is a pleasant surprise on the list. I thoughly enjoyed it. I’ve been a big fan of BKV for quite awhile now. Also, anyone who hasn’t checked out his Ultimate X-men run should do so. Its a great hidden gem. And with art by Immonen(sp?) it looks amazing too!

So we’re left with, let’s see…

Gaiman, Sandman
Lee-Kirby, FF
Claremont-Byrne, X-Men
Moore, Swamp Thing

and… what?

I actually saw why coming when I was looking at the master list. I wonder why people love it so much. It was a great series but there are plenty of books from Vertigo alone that are better :/

Y: the Last Man? Really? Just like any other comic by Vaughan, it started out strong with its trivia-spouting main character being put in an interesting high-concept situation, but then it sputtered and went nowhere. I prefer Ex Machina and Runaways, which had better art, even if neither of those comics were much fun after the initial story arcs, either. I wouldn’t have put Y: the Last Man in the top 50.

I don’t understand the shock behind Y. It is one o fthe best series to come out in years, why wouldn’t it do well on this list? I wouldn’t have guessed that it woudl be this high, but certainly somewhere on here…

And for the person who said “I guess Saga will be on here next time”, I would have voted for Saga NOW if I had been allowed….

I know that Spider-Man run invented one of the all time great superheroes and was groundbreaking at the time. Sadly I found it tedious – but that probably says more about my inability to cope with old-school dialogue than the quality of the comic itself. I certainly don’t begrudge it its place on the list – actually I’m suprised it wasn’t higher.

Y: The Last Man though – I just don’t get it. The book was okay, but not top 100 material let alone top 10 material. Runaways and Ex Machina were way better.

joe the poor speller

October 31, 2012 at 5:46 am

I didn’t vote for any Stan Lee material. I can see why so many people love it, I just don’t think it’s that good. Y is cool, but top 5 material? Don’t think so. Maybe a top 20. It starts very strong, but begin to drag a little by the end.

Y oh Y?! I’ve read a couple of the Y trades and while it was decent I honestly don’t know how it’s a top 5 book and I never had the urge to read more. I felt there was far too much padding and decompression at some points.

People have different opinions and it’s great to discover new runs in lists like these, but a top 5? Sorry, no.

The original Spidey run was one of my picks. That means I’ve now got 3 out of 10 placed in the Top 100. (And I seriously expect one more to go the distance during the final four.) It is the only Stan Lee run I’ve ever seriously considered voting for, in fact. There was something about his scripting of Silver Age Spidey which made the storytelling much more entertaining for me than anything he was simultaneously doing on the FF, the X-Men, Daredevil, Hulk, The Avengers, etc. (Although just this past weekend, I reread a bunch of his old Avengers work to refresh my memory.)

I have read “Y the Last Man.” I don’t like it enough to go back and read it again any time soon. I admit that Vaughan worked hard on it, but there were all sorts of things about it that rubbed me the wrong way at one time or another. (Including the basic premise that the last man on Earth was being allowed to just wander around with a couple of friends instead of being treated as a national treasure.)

Rusty Priske: I don’t think people are saying that Y is bad, just that they’re surprised by it.

I’m shocked that Y moved up from 13 last time to 5 this time. Well, I’m not totally shocked because I’ve been comparing last time’s results to this time and I knew it hadn’t appeared yet, so I knew it had to be in the top 5, but if you told me before this started that it would be this high, I’d say you’re plumb loco.
I sort of agree with joe the poor speller on Stan Lee. It’s incredibly important material, but most of it (with the exceptions of FF#44 through about #70, and some of the Spidey stuff) doesn’t hold up that well. Even so, I think he’s the most important person in comics history, even if his stuff doesn’t make my top 10 (though some does make my top 20).

Y ahead of Spider-Man and Daredevil? If the goal was to make me cry, you’ve succeeded.

Here’s my basic stance on Stan Lee’s work:

FF: AWESOME.

Spider-Man: Also awesome.

Thor: This is awesome, too.

Doctor Strange: Still the best run on the character.

Silver Surfer: Best run on the character, only rivaled by Jim Starlin’s run.

Hulk: My personal favorite Hulk run and one of the three truly great runs on the character along with Peter David’s and Greg Pak’s.

Millie the Model: Hugely underrated, really an excellent comic.

Avengers: Pretty cool, been surpassed by several runs since.

Sgt. Fury and his Howling Commandos: Decent. It’d be cool if Marvel would do more classic style war comics like this. I guess Ennis’ work on Fury is kind of like a modernization of this title in a sense.

Nick Fury, Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D.: Decent, but FAR surpassed by Jim Steranko’s run.

X-Men: Crap. A bunch of characters that weren’t cool enough for the Avengers and stories that were too dull for FF.

Daredevil: Boring. The homeless man’s Spider-Man (before Miller turned the character into the poor man’s Batman).

Captain America: Never could get into Lee’s Cap. Not bad though.

Iron Man. Not too bad.

Lee’s various romance comics: Basically shit, but with excellent illustrators (Kirby did several stories as did most of the other top talent at Marvel in the 60s).

I love Y but my BKV vote went to Ex Machina. I loved the political element, and found the resolution to the high concept mystery was much better executed.

I enjoyed Y, but I don’t think I’ll ever feel the need to re-read it. Lots of other stuff on the list bears repeat readings.

Now 5 for 10

3. Gotham Central
5. Amazing Spider-Man
6. Y the Last Man
9. Avengers (Busiek)
10. Strange Tales

Spider-Man – No point in elaborating on this. Really, no point at all. It’s Lee and Ditko creating Spider-Man. ‘Nuff Said.

Y: The Last Man – I’m sorry. I’m totally fine with people disagreeing with my opinions, which has happened many times over the course of the list, and I really love to hear why they disagree because I love to get multiple perspectives on works of art. But, I’ve listened, gotten into arguments, and read lengthy essays, and I still really can’t understand how anyone couldn’t love this series. I’m sorry if that sounds close-minded, but hey, that’s just my opinion. I don’t think I’ve ever grown more attached to a group of characters, or been so enthralled in a story for five years. There’s just too much greatness on the table. There’s the stuff everyone’s mentioned like BKV’s excellent characters and cliffhangers, but there’s also the spectacular art of Pia Guerra, which manages to be truly detailed in showing all the tiny movements in a characters motion or face as opposed to the Todd McFarlane school of “MUST DRAW LINES OVER EVERYTHING!” There’s also social commentary, which Vaughan does expertly without the need for soapboxing, instead taking every idea about a male fantasy and subverting it, so not only does the social commentary show not tell, but it also develops our main character, who just grows more and more fascinating as the series goes on. And, then there’s the ending. I don’t think anyone could have thought of a more perfect ending to that series. Enough of my rambling, anyone with taste: Go read this!

Absolutely love both of these runs. Even moreso than Kirby and Lee’s FF, the Lee/Ditko Spider-Man feels like the quintessential Marvel superhero comic. Brilliant on so many levels, and I feel like its aged the best of all the 60s Marvels (I can read it today and, aside from some dated pop culture references, there isn’t a whole lot of “that’s how comics were done back then” things to overlook).

Y is simply fantastic, one of the best sci-fi stories I’ve ever read, and surprisingly touching, with wonderfully rendered characters. By the end, Yorick just felt like someone I was friends with. Very few comics (or books or movies) move me to tears, but that last issue made me sob.

Quick question to Brian: Is there any chance we’ll get to see runs that didn’t make the cut like last time? I’m always looking for more comics to check out and let’s face it: most of these runs were on the last countdown. I need a longer Xmas list please.

I really liked the beginning and the end of Y: the Last Man. I don’t HATE it but I have no idea how anyone could put it over Runaways, let alone most of these none-Vaughan runs.

Lee/Ditko Spider-Man, I mean, duh.

Never been interested in reading Y The Last Man,.
Those sample pages are not changing my mind.

I’ll stick with the last boy on Earth, Kamandi! Which I almost put on my final list.

Ditko/ Lee Spider-Man: The definitive Spider-Man. Ditko’s art and storytelling gave this series its punch, and ruined me for almost every run that followed.

Y the Last Man: I liked this series. The last issue was excellent. The character development was well-done. Nice art. Not an overwhelming favorite, and I’m surprised to see any non-Sandman Vertigo series this high, but definitely a quality read.

I might total up points by creator once all of the Top 100 books are in, if I can figure out a reasonable way to do so.

Lee/Ditko Spider-Man 2012: #6, 849 points
Lee/Ditko Spider-Man 2008: #6, 926 points
No change, -77 points

Y the Last Man 2012: #5, 855 points
Y the Last Man 2008: #13, 547 points
Up 8 places, +308 points

Lee/Ditko’s classic Spider-Man run holds steady, losing a trivial number of points (at this point in the Top 100) and holding onto the #6 spot from the 2008 Top 100. I usually think of runs that move neither up nor down as runs where the voters have come to a certain amount of consensus about its status, and I think Lee/Ditko’s Spider-Man is a pretty good example of that. One of the all-time greats, and still surprisingly easy to read.

Y the Last Man takes an unexpected leap up the charts into the Top 10, climbing 8 spots and gaining 308 points in the 2012 voting. This is probably due a quirk of timing with the 2008 voting, which began around the time Y’s last issue was being published. Even if a lot of 2008 voters had read the story’s conclusion, there probably hadn’t been enough time to really digest the story yet. Y did well in trades, though, and so now it seems history has decided to be kind to it.

Lee/Ditko ASM brings my total to at least 6/10. Those comics are classic in every sense of the word.
I thought “Y” was good overall, although Vaughn’s little tics that annoy me are present in full force. This is one of those runs that I think is good, just horrifically overrated. I don’t begrudge anyone having favorites that differ from my own, though.

AverageJoeEveryman

October 31, 2012 at 11:15 am

From Turd Burglar
Here’s my basic stance on Stan Lee’s work: . . .

But what is your stance on Ravage 2099? Inquiring minds want to know!

and also mckracken you LOVES Morrison’s Batman and HATES Y. You are the anti me. You must be skinny, black, and have no facial hair. I am afraid what would happen to the universe if we were to meet.

The Lee/Ditko Spider-Man is one of my favorites. Ditko’s storytelling, his choreography in fight scenes, is just stunning. Lee’s dialogue is the best of his career. Stan’s the eternal adolescent and I’ve always assumed that that’s why Spidey was so close to his heart. The book’s not perfect. There’s a dead zone early on, once the first set of new villains has been exhausted, where the creators spin their wheels and rely too much on appearances by their lamest characters, the Enforcers (I wonder which one of them thought the Enforcers were so great anyway?) But by the time it picks up again, about when the Green Goblin comes back, it has become maybe the greatest superhero comic in history. Although I prefer their Doctor Strange, and voted for that instead.

Y I read recently and I liked it a lot, although I’m surprised it made it this far. I can see some of the detractors’ points: the story is not tightly plotted and the explanation for the plague is absurd (probably on purpose). But it has a very strong beginning and a very strong ending, and Guerra’s artwork is fantastic. I suspect that it made it so high because the book appeals to female readers. Can any XX voters confirm this?

The only comic I dislike more than Y is SANDMAN.

and until yesterday i used to have a beard like D’Artagnan.

I agree the Y The Last Man has no place on the top 50 of this list, certainly not the top 10. Other than the Geoff Johns Green Lantern, I see nothing else as glaringly undeserved. And just to be clear I really enjoyed Y the Last Man – it just isn’t THAT good.

I mainly admire the fact that Brian K Vaughn managed to not turn one of the most infantile plot devices imaginable into a total train wreck and wrote a few truly great female characters in the process. But honestly this does not compare to other recent vertigo titles like Scalped, nor does it compare to many of the non-big two titles like Grendel languishing far lower on the list.

I had Stan Lee/Steve Ditko Amazing Spider-Man second on my ballot so 6/10 of my picks have shown up.

My favorite part of Jacob T Levy’s post is that there were 4 more runs left on the list, he lists 4, then asks what’s left. hee hee

My shock with Y wasn’t necessarily any judgment on its quality, but because I hadn’t looked at the last list, so I didn’t know what might be coming, and because I visit this site often enough (ahem, daily!) that I would have thought that if Y was going to be this high, people would talk it up more often. It’s not a book that comes up when some of us start talking about great runs, so it was a surprise that it showed up this high.

I’m late, but I can’t help putting in my two cents. If you notice, a lot of the people who are surprised to see Y the Last Man aren’t even questioning the Lee/Ditko Amazing Spider-Man‘s placement in the top 10. I’m not questioning that placement, those early books are some of the most influential comic stories of all time. But there are a lot of people out there who see those books as interesting from a historical special, but kind of a chore to get through. There is a (somewhat) significant chunk of readers out there who don’t see Lee, Ditko and Kirby as the prototypical comic creators. Their entry level books wasn’t a old copy of Amazing found in a nickel bin, but a copy of Watchmen, Maus, or Y, probably in trade paperback. If you didn’t grow up with them, those Lee/Ditko stories are kinda boilerplate adventure stories obviously written for children with outdated, somewhat terrible, dialogue.

And the point above about how the reason for the plague doesn’t work kind of proves that there is a lack of understanding. I mean, you’re basically right, but who gives a shit? What I mean is that the explanation for the plague matters as much to Y as the mechanics of how getting bitten by a radioactive Spider gives you superpowers matters to Amazing. The plague isn’t what Y is about, it’s merely the precipitating event that our characters must deal with. And those characters and the work BKV does with them are the reason people love Y, not any specific story arc or plot twist.

“The plague isn’t what Y is about,”

Yes it is.

And I give a shit, because if the basic premise works basically like “magic” just so the writer can get to the quirky gender issues, then you might as call it “insult readers intelligence-fiction” instead of “science-fiction”.

Peter Parker fights Dr. Octopus. (before being bitten by a radioactive spider)
I don’t see Yorick duking it out with the “Rhino”. (before all male organism die – HAHA. Jeezus at least Spider-man came up with SOMETHING)

I didn’t find Y that appealing to me, because I don’t read comics to see men get it in the teeth. I suspect that says more of what you think about women than what women think of me. It’s a good book, but not one of the best I’ve ever read, and there are comics like Nextwave and Secret Six (surprise, I know) that appeal to me as a woman more than the premise of Y does.

I think mckracken went around the bend; he seems to have lost control of his language skills in his last sentence. Get him some Mort Weisnger on an IV drip, stat!

and of course that should read “what women think of men.” Maybe I need a transfusion of Simone…

If you notice, a lot of the people who are surprised to see Y the Last Man aren’t even questioning the Lee/Ditko Amazing Spider-Man‘s placement in the top 10.

Because Lee/Ditko Spider-Man is about 100x better than Y and is better than every last superhero comic either Marvel or DC will put out this year. That’s why no one is questioning its high placement. See, the answer’s a lot less complicated than you thought.

Hell yeah, T!

Like the cover of the intro of the Goblin — “Does the Green Goblin look cute to you? Does he make you want to smile? Well, forget it! He’s the most sinister, most dangerous foe Spidey’s ever fought!”

http://www.comics.org/issue/18494/cover/4/

How can you not want to buy that comic?

And there’s the one I can’t remember the issue number of, where the cover copy is “Spidey as you like him, laughing, fighting, joking” or something like that. That Spider-Man kicks ass!!!!

Finally getting to these last few posts after a very busy week…

Of course no complaints on Lee/Ditko Spidey. I didn’t vote for it, and find much of it difficult to slog through, but there’s no question it deserves a top 10 placing.

Y is interesting. I love the series, and it just missed my vote. I am surprised it’s this high, simply because I can’t figure out what would account for it’s jump from #13 in ’08. I’m pretty sure the series had been completed at that point, and BKV has largely been absent from the medium in the ensuing 4 years, although maybe his return and Saga’s popularity is making people remember how much they like Y? Or Vertigo’s decision to release it in hardcover has made a difference in the number of people that have read it? I really don’t know. I think Y was at its best in the smaller, more personal issues, which often spotlighted single characters and took the reader on a tour through their subconscious. Jason Aaron seems to have used this model for Scalped, with longer arcs being broken up by single character issues, and it’s used quite well there, too.

I do wish Y wouldn’t have gotten any higher than #7, because the top 6 in the ’08 poll (Sandman, Claremont/Byrne Uncanny, Lee/Kirby FF, Moore Swamp Thing, Miller DD, and Lee/Ditko Spidey) make the perfect top 6, in some order.

To explain: I just think that, again, in some order, those are obviously the 6 most important runs of the last 50 years. Those 6 runs, taken together, sort of dictated what comics have done and where they’ve gone, and still heavily inform where they are now. Lee’s FF and Spidey are probably a large part of the reason super-hero comics still exist, why so many people still care about them, and the major shaper’s of the Marvel Universe and brand. Claremont/Byrne Uncanny and Miller DD are probably the two most important examples of how super-hero stories grew up in the 1980s and entered into the modern age, and a huge percentage of super-hero books on the stands still try to recapture the magic of those two series. And Swamp Thing & Sandman are probably the two series most responsible for charting the trajectory of where non-super-hero comics have gone in the last two decades.

And sure, a handful of other runs have been arguably just as important (Cerebus, GL/GA, Love & Rockets, Steranko Fury, etc.), but it’s difficult for series like those, which had vastly fewer readers, to claim the overall impact on the medium that the above six had, which were all best sellers (either in issues or trades) and sort of took the industry by storm in one way or another. The above six runs have seen Marvel and DC trying to recreate not just their quality and style, but also their business model, for decades. Those are the six runs that, more than any other, have shaped the last 50 years of American comic books, and I was really hoping they would be the top 6 on this countdown as well.

So much as I like Y, I’m disappointed it crashed the Top 6 Party and kicked Miller’s DD to #7. Part of me thinks that if Frank Miller hadn’t gone clinically insane over the last few years, his DD would have moved up a spot or two, but oh well.

Ed (A Different One)

November 6, 2012 at 1:38 pm

Wow, so late to the party after deathstorm 2012 and a killer resperatory infection.

Anyway, I have absolutely nothing to add. You all clearly had this covered in my absence.

Man, more than anything, I like how these polls bring in all the commenters out there. The tried and true (I’m looking at you T, Travis Pelke, Turd Burglar, et al.) and the new ones as well.

Stand up and be recognized y’all.

(And, yeah, Miller DD and Lee/Ditko ASM should have been ahead of Y)

Third Man’s list of the previous top 6…what kind of commentary is it that DC only got up there before with their “Vertigo” characters, and not any of their mainstream ones, and the rest are all Marvel?

My shop ran out of the first issue of Y, so I didn’t pick up the rest. Seeing it’s entry here reminded me that I should pick it up. Looking at the excerpts made me wonder if that hadn’t been a fortunate error. While the art is fine, I certainly don’t see it as great. Would anyone have know “Mann” was Asian without that pretentious dialogue between them? And the whole “first time” experience seems like college prose. I’m sure there were better things, but if this was examples of what was best, maybe I didn’t miss THAT much.

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