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Month of Avengers/X-Men Top Fives – Top Five Mutant Avengers

All month-long we’ll be featuring top five lists about either the Avengers or the X-Men. Here is an archive of all the past top five lists!

In this installment, we’ll look at the top five mutant members of the Avengers.

Enjoy!

The brand-new members are too brand-new to make the list (Havok, Rogue, Cannonball and Sunspot). Storm really barely had a cup of coffee with the team, so the amount of legitimate options for this list are surprisingly small. While I like Namor, I wasn’t a huge fan of his tenure on the team (Roger Stern never really seemed to have full access to the character and by the time you would think he’d be able to really spotlight the character, Stern was taken off of the title and Walter Simonson’s job was to break the team apart so Namor didn’t have much of a great tenure). There WAS one really good issue where Cap stood up for Namor against protesters.

5. Justice

While I enjoy Firestar a lot, Justice has to be the pick between the two. Remember when he answered Captain America’s call back in the first arc of Busiek/Perez’s Avengers? That sense of honor and love of being an Avenger was such a fascinating idea. I love the concept of a guy who always wanted to be in the big leagues and now that he is there, can he cut it? Firestar is great, too, but she seemed to be more along for the ride than anything else.

4. Wolverine

One of the best aspects of Jason Aaron’s work with Wolverine is the way that he’s made it clear that Wolverine really is all things to all people, which is why he manages to work well on the Avengers. While he might have been brought on to the team to be the guy who would do the dirty work when the time came, he has slowly progressed into being an important and prominent member of the team, working on both the New Avengers AND the main Avengers team for quite awhile before taking on his current role on the expanded main Avengers team.

3. Quicksilver

We know you’re better than a one star character, Quicksilver! However, you’re also not in the same ballpark as the next two characters.

2. Beast

I love how Beast epitomizes things people claim to dislike (X-Men joining the Avengers and writers adding their pet characters on to the team book when they take over writing it) but since Beast joined the Avengers before most of them were fans, Beast is somehow an exception and not the exception that proves the rule (which is to say that he is the exception that proves the rule is full of shit).

However, he hasn’t had the same impact as…

1. Scarlet Witch

One of the all-time Avengers greats. I’m glad Uncanny Avengers is exploring her mutantdom some more, it is a fascinating aspect of her history, as she (pre-Disassembled) might have been the most popular mutant on Earth as a longtime celebrated member of the Avengers.

That’s the list! Agree? Disagree? Let me know!

33 Comments

No, no, no.

Wolverine has no place in the Avengers. Period.

I’m not sure he even has a place in the X-Men.

Anyway, the Avengers have not existed for almost ten years now, so I guess it is all academic.

I’m relieved Wolverine wasn’t number one.

That top 3 is the wise choice (especially since they were the only three mutants for a while).

Scarlet Witch is a good choice but Beast will always be my number one. I knew him as an Avenger before I learned he was an X-Man, to the point his appearance in the X-Men would be an unexpected bonus (see that Magneto/X-Men fight posted earlier).

It’ funny how on the Avengers he was largely a comedy relief character under Englehart, then Shooter then Michelenie. His high intelligence seemed to be ignored for a while, until Shooter, then Michelenie, started working it in every once in a while where he’d surprise everyone (like suddenly speaking Latin to a nun to get information).

My favourite characterization remains the blue, fuzzy, joking goofball who has a genius IQ in his pocket.

Well, I have to agree with Luis. We know exactly why he was included.

Hmmmm…should Justice get a sort of “double entry” since his alternate-universe counterpart of Vance Astrovik is an honorary Avenger (and was before younger Vance was)?

I actually like Wolverine as an Avenger, although he hasn’t really been utilized much until Uncanny Avengers. In fact, I’d say the best part (only good part?) of AvX was when Wolvie firmly sided with the Avengers against the X-Men, and even got to say Avengers Assemble.

Actually, there’s a cool comic book moment for you right there, Brian.

The “Wolverine-as-an-Avenger” backlash is getting old, as is the “Avengers-haven’t-existed-since-Bendis” trope. Some of the best Avengers stories have come from the last ten years and have included Wolverine, who has more than proved his worth on the team.

And for the record, my favorite Avengers writers are Englehart and Busiek, but I will defend Bendis’ stories ’til the cows come home. The vast majority of them are decent.

PS, back on topic, the Scarlet Witch is my favorite Avenger so nice to see her No. 1!

Squirrel Girl! ;)

” Anyway, the Avengers have not existed for almost ten years now, so I guess it is all academic. ”

I hate to break it to you, but the Avengers never existed in the first place, being fictional and all.

I can’t be the only one who finds Scarlet Witch pretty dull. She’s basically a walking Mcguffin.

Bruce is right. Beast should be number 1. He’s alot better on the Avengers than on the Xmen.

And Wolverine on the Avengers is just plain lame.

you put ‘two’ in the blurb near the start instead of ‘too’. confused the bejesus out of me.

For me is

5 – Justice
4 – Firestar
3 – Beast
2 – Quicksilver
1 – Scarlet Witch

” I actually like Wolverine as an Avenger, although he hasn’t really been utilized much until Uncanny Avengers. In fact, I’d say the best part (only good part?) of AvX was when Wolvie firmly sided with the Avengers against the X-Men, and even got to say Avengers Assemble. ”

More of a sad commentary on the X-Men’s decline, since Wolverine was just doing the rational thing by opposing Cyclops’ cult.

“It’ funny how on the Avengers he was largely a comedy relief character under Englehart, then Shooter then Michelenie. His high intelligence seemed to be ignored for a while, until Shooter, then Michelenie, started working it in every once in a while where he’d surprise everyone (like suddenly speaking Latin to a nun to get information).”

I remember reading somewhere that Beast’s intellect was downplayed whilst he was a member of the Avengers, as they have a ton of scientists and geniuses (Black Panther, Hank Pym, Iron Man, etc.), and so his agility was really played up, whereas since the X-Men have geniuses few and far between his intellect is purposely played up there.

Yep. Wolvie has been appearing in Avengers for about a decade. Times change. Life goes on.

As far as I’m concerned, the Avengers haven’t existed for almost 50 years! I don’t know why Marvel thought they could make the Avengers in to a team of villains. Hawkeye, Scarlet Witch, and Quicksilver will NEVER be on MY Avengers.

Wasn’t Falcon considered a mutant? I seem to recall a limited series where he was examined by Professor X then attacked by sentinels.

I always find the complaints about Wolverine’s ubiquity to be amusing. Of course it’s not realistic that he would appear on every team. But of course, it’s not really realistic when the character has a “healing factor” that lets him regenerate from the most critical wounds.

big A – It has since been stated that the sentinel was malfunctioning. Falcon is NOT a mutant.
His only power is his psychic communication with Redwing which (if I remember correctly) was created by the Red Skull using the cosmic cube

I would’ve picked Firestar over Justice because she’s just a more interesting character, but I do understand your reasoning. Vance was the one who (more than practically any other character) really, really wanted to be an Avenger. Angelica was only there to be with him.

I absolutely HATE the justification that was used for putting Wolverine on the team. I can’t believe Captain America would ever accept such an unethical argument. But as a character, he’s actually fit in really well.

The top three were just so obvious, I don’t know how anyone could argue with your choices there.

What about Namor? I would have thought he’d at least beat out Justice.

What about Namor? I would have thought he’d at least beat out Justice.

I don’t think he had a great tenure on the Avengers, but you’re right that I should have at least thrown him an honorable mention. I’ll edit that in. Thanks.

I think Falcon should have at least made the top 5. Definitely a more integral member of the Avengers than Justice.

My only problem with Wolverine as an Avenger is that they always say that hes there to do the dirty work, yet whenever his response to a threat is “lets kill [scarlet witch/wiccan/cyclops/hope]” everyone gets all offended and surprised as if that wasn’t why he was there.
Its like his membership of the team is simply to reinforce the Heroes don’t kill stereotype.

@Luis Dantas
Crazy talk! Wolverine not even making it as X-Men? Being an X-men, Wolverine has been able to find his humanity despite all that has been done to him. Being an Avengers has allowed Wolverine to see a bigger picture, hence his disagreement with Cyclops during schism.

Along with Spider-Man and Luke Cage, Wolverine is one of the quintessential members of the New X-Men.

I doubt Uncanny Avengers will change this list any time soon, but Rogue and Sunfire have worked as Avengers. Sunfire may work better as an avenger than an X-Man!

Is the Beast currently a regular Avenger again? I cannot keep track of the active roster nowadays; there are so many titles with characters constantly coming & going. It makes my head hurt.

Anyway, I have an Avengers-themed sketchbook that I’ve had going since 2007. I’ve gotten both Storm and Rogue drawn in there. Storm was a member of the Avengers for the entirety of the Marvel Adventures: Avengers three year plus run, so that was good enough for me (yeah, I occasionally have artists draw alternate reality Avengers… my book, my rules). As for Rogue, yep, she’s only been an Avenger for a few months, but I decided that was good enough for me. Plus, it turned out the artist I asked to sketch her was a huge fan of the character. So there you go.

I’ve posted scans of the sketches on Comic Art Fans. Here’s a link:

http://www.comicartfans.com/galleryroom.asp?gsub=43066

@GregDean: Falcon is NOT a mutant. After a bunch of years of back & forth about whether or not Sam Wilson was a mutant, Kurt Busiek finally cleared up the confusion in a back-up story in Avengers Annual 2001. That’s also where it was explained that, nope, there is no adamantium in Captain America’s shield.

@Ben Herman: Beast isn’t active as an Avenger right now. He IS a member of the Illuminati, though, and as such is one of the stars of “New Avengers”, but that isn’t so much a proper Avengers team as it is a group of characters who sort of inherited a title that sells well. Hickman has said that he doesn’t consider the Illuminati an Avengers team, so I wouldn’t count Beast as a member of a proper Avengers team.

I wish Wanda was used more! for example in the main Avengers book, and not only in Uncanny Avengers, she would make a great add to the huge roster

When I was a kid (and yeah, this will give away my age), there was an addition of OHATMU where it stated that Falcon has hollow bones and this is why the flying wings work especially well for him, which is why he was a mutant. I have to believe that was taken out of his origin, just because hollow bones would have meant he would have broken his bones more often, making him pretty much Mr. Glass.

I too would like to see Scarlet Witch in more than one Avengers book, and her brother in at least one.

As a big Justice fan (and New Warriors in general) I think that Firestar was given a lot more focus in the Busiek/Perez run. The story seemed to be that no, Vance couldn’t quite cut it but Angelica, who was just sort of there for the ride, could really blossom. I think she probably deserves #5 more. That said, I think he’s been focused enough since then in Initiative and Academy that it makes up for it somewhat.

I’d have put Firestar and Namor in over Wolverine.

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