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Month of Cool Avengers/X-Men Comic Book Moments – Namor Sends Norman Osborn a Message

All month long we will feature brand-new Cool Avengers and X-Men Comic Book Moments in celebration of their fiftieth anniversaries this month. Here is an archive of all the past cool comic moments that I’ve featured so far over the years.

Today we look at Namor sending a message to Norman Osborn in Dark Reign: The List – X-Men…

Namor married the alien Marrina but sadly Marrina turned into this giant creature and Namor and his teammates (back when he was an Avenger) were forced to kill her. However, she later popped up alive again in the control of the Master during the Kang Dynasty storyline in Avengers. The Master died in that story, though. So in Dark Reign: The List – X-Men #1 by Matt Fraction, Alan Davis and Mark Farmer, we learn that eventually Norman Osborn got a hold of her and genetically mutated her back into that giant creature again only much, much worse. He then used her to get revenge on Namor. You see, Namor and the White Queen both pretended to be partners with Norman Osborn in his evil Cabal but really were just spying on him. Namor then joined the X-Men. So Osborn sought revenge by sending the mutated Marrina to kill as many Atlanteans as possible. Eventually the X-Men and Namor came up with a plan. First, the X-Men teleported every Atlantean they could find out of the Pacific Ocean so that there was only Marrina and Namor. She quickly found him, but he was waiting there with the X-Men. They executed an elaborate plan that basically involved them all trying to get her out of the water. What comes next is sad but also badass…

Great moment for Namor. Strong piece of writing by Fraction and amazing art from Davis and Farmer.


Sentry is such a tool. Although I still don’t get what or who he exactly was.

i still don’t get how Namor is an X-Man…

He asked if he could join, and they said “Yes”.

I’m not sure the sadness really comes through in this issue for me, because Fraction focuses so much more on Namor’s ego. He doesn’t come across as someone who loves anyone else enough to feel bad when he has to harm someone else in order to do something for himself. I suppose that’s the point, but it rather blunts the tragedy here.

Between his Tony Stark, his Odin, his Reed Richards, and his Namor, I get the sense that Fraction really likes taking the more patrician or “establishment” characters down a few pegs when he writes them. (yes, Namor is an “establishment” character; he’s in the Illuminati and a king in-universe, and out-of-universe he’s Marvel’s oldest continuing character.) That’s something that can be done interestingly and with an eye to character development and complexity, and Fraction sometimes does that; and it’s something that can be done flatly and dully by dialing up the character’s negative traits, ignoring all the positive ones, and then having bad things happen to them as a result. For me, this falls more into the latter camp.

I like Namor better with a triangle head.

I remember when this came out there was a little controversy over this issue about Namor’s ex being reduced to vagina dentata paranoia: http://comicsalliance.com/namors-vagina-dentata-a-freudian-reading-of-dark-x-men-the-l/

“Don’t fight me, Mariana”. That’s a typo, right?
And how exactly did Marrina die, but not Namor? Deep sea pressure?
I find it odd that even a vet like Davis sometimes can’t quite nail Cyclops visor

Fraction also had Namor make a joke about ex-wives in this annual- we didn’t get a sense at all of how much he loved Marinna and how much it hurt him seeing her like this.
I agree with Omar- Fraction did not seem to get Namor and Tony. In the Order, he had Namor tell a reporter that his father raped his mother. Since Namor had never claimed anything like this before and is usually written as hating Llyra and Tiger Shark for killing his father, this was jarring.

@ejulpboy, I remember that argument and really don’t buy the ‘vagina dentata paranoia’ in this case. I do think it is fair to say that poor Marrina has been (repeatedly) ‘fridged’ though.

love how even after getting his little evil gift returned to him Norman is still arrogant enough to tell Namor bring it on. plus the sentry proving still what a waste of a potential character by being normans lackey

” Fraction also had Namor make a joke about ex-wives in this annual- we didn’t get a sense at all of how much he loved Marinna and how much it hurt him seeing her like this. ”

Gallows humor— Namor’s joke about ex-wives seems a clear attempt from him to deflect his pain. The flashback while he’s putting down the creature made from his wife’s corpse shows that he hates doing this, and his righteous fury at Norman is another example.

Very “impacting” moment. But as most Alpha Flight fans know, Marrina got better.

Norman’s reaction was great, not giving a crap.

I read namor as being upset, judging from the flashback scene. He just hated Osbourne more.

Sentry being all powerful but emotionally manipulated by Norman easily is fairly interesting.


September 25, 2013 at 11:12 am

I love that Sentry’s first thought to offer Norman is a corndog.

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