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DC/Marvel Tourney, DC Heavy Hitters Region, Round 1

The first round of voting begins now!

Simply choose which characters you think would win in a (non “to the death”) fight in the following match-up. The voting concludes 48 hours from right now!

Each competitor has, let’s say, a half hour to prepare (so it’s not like Sinestro just walking up to Shazam and blasting him – Shazam would be prepared), and can use whatever weaponry you figure would be typical for that character (so Guy Gardner can use whatever weapons you would expect him to normally use, but he can’t go get, I dunno, the Infinity Gauntlet, or whatever). In this particular poll, we’re using the New 52 versions of these characters.


NOTE: These are JavaScript polls. If you don’t have Java, then you can’t vote.


Found myself voting for a lot of lower ranked folks.

Poor Aquaman

are these pre or post new-52 incarnations?

Is it weird that I’m filtering most of these through how the match-ups work in Injustice?

Oh, I assumed New 52 (sadly), because if they’re calling Captain Marvel “Shazam” it’s either the kid who’s only had powers, like, a week, or it’s the old wizard in the old continuity.

I’m guessing the rankings are based on where they finished in the character rankings, correct? I’m voting for a lot of upsets.

Captain Librarian

March 20, 2014 at 11:39 am

I’ll confess to knowing little of the New 52 and mostly just doing a few searches for when I wasn’t sure about their abilities. So here’s my votes based more on my personal head recollection and bias than anything:

Superman over Zatanna
Trying to bait us by putting Superman against a magic user eh? Zatanna gives Superman a run for his money, but he’s thought his way past tons of even more powerful magic users over the years.

Kyle over Superboy.
This fight ends up spreading over the stars. Green Lantern corps training and prep time allows Kyle to maneuver Superboy into a Red Sun or some other weakness exposing maguffin.

Supergirl over Guy Gardener
I’m guessing the red blooded Guy will have trouble concentrating while fighting Kara.

Martian Manhunter over Hal
Upset! J’onn is smart enough to anticipate Hal using his weaknesses against him. I think he takes this.

Power Girl over Flash
Huh boy. Okay look, I know Flash at his maximum speed and with the full set of powers is basically a ‘win now’ button 95% of the time. But he’s never consistently written that way, for obvious reasons so I’m going to say that even if he’s faster, Power Girl has enough super speed of her own to eventually grab him and simply fly high enough to make him pass out from lack of oxygen.

Wonder Woman over Swamp Thing
This took a bit more thought. I don’t know, Diana with prep time and her full arsenal is pretty dangerous, but Swamp Thing? I have a LOT of respect for his power set. At first I thought there just wasn’t much Diana could do to hurt him. Even if she lassos him and flies him off the earth he’ll still be able to grow another body. But wait! Diana has a history of psychic abilities and even post crisis has been able to astral project. So I’m saying Wonder Woman meets Swamp Thing in the Green itself and comes out on top with the KO after a long battle.

Shazam over Sinestro
Wait…is this Captain Marvel or the Wizard? Is Captain Marvel called Shazam now? I’m probably showing my bias for heroes but I’m taking the guy who consistently goes toe to toe with Superman over several generations.

Aquaman over Darkseid.

Don’t look at me like that.

Fine, by all accounts I know most think Darkseid wins this but I say Aquaman goads his overconfident self and his army from Apokolips to face the forces of Atlantis and the creatures of the seas on his terms. Then while Darkseid is Omega beaming a blue whale in his face he stabs him in the eyes with a trident. Like so:

voted for the super peeps, Wonder Woman and Darkseid

Swamp Thing beats everyone. He’s practically unbeatable.

Ironically Zatanna might have had a chance, but Superman blatantly knocks her out of the competition by beating her before she can even open her mouth.

Zantana. My thinking is she says “etinotpyrk dlog ot emutsoc s’namrepuS” right off the bat.

She’d get maybe as far as “etin” before Superman knocks her out.

Willie Everstop

March 20, 2014 at 4:02 pm

Atlantean Army vs Parademons. Darkseid hates fresh water and poisons Atlantis with a toxic bomb. Aquaman and a hundred of his closest whale buddies shove a huge chunk of Antarctica and the surrounding oceans through a captured Boom Tube to crush Darkseid’s palace and flood Apokolips with deadly steam.

Drag Darkseid to the bottom of the ocean and he’s toast. Swarming schools of fish would block his Omega beams. A hundred shark feeding frenzy with backup from fifty angry octopi and thousands of crabs would slow him down. Aquaman orders millions of krill and plankton to swim down Darkseid’s throat before he forks him a few times and tosses him down a trench.

Yeah Superman wins, I mean in ‘Injustice’ Billy wasn’t even able to get the word ‘SHAZAM’ out of his mouth before superman grabbed his throat then froze his mouth shut.

There is no conceivable way Swamp Thing loses to Wonder Woman unless it’s pre-Alan Moore Swampy, which it isn’t.

Agree with Captain Librarian that Martian Manhunter’s intelligence will give him the victory over Hal.

Disagree that Wonder Woman could defeat Swamp Thing though, New 52 Wonder Woman is more of a straight up brawler, ill-suited to defeat Swamp Thing with his mastery of the Green.

Flash is too much for Power Girl.

tuo mih kconk bam down goes supes

I first picked Zatanna, expecting a March Madness upset. But if Supes has 30 min to prepare, he could suck all the air out of the room, leaving Zatanna speechless and unable to do anything except pass out.

tuo mih kconk bam down goes supes

sepus seog nwod mab knock him out????


March 21, 2014 at 6:50 am

Deadpool beats every chump on this list-o-chumps, PS supermans the worst superhero ever and all you little DC heads know it

It figures that the only two characters on here that I actually like face each other.

Wonder Woman over Swamp Thing

The rest are pretty much pick-ems.

Zatanna, Superboy, Supergirl, Martian Manhunter, Power Girl, Captain Marvel, Darkseid

found my self when i got to wonder woman wound up voting for swamp thing due to him controlling all plants for he could use any plant around them and tie wonder woman up.

Patrick Maloney

March 21, 2014 at 3:38 pm

Zatanna, Superboy, Supergirl, Martian Manhunter, Power Girl, Wonder Woman, Sinestro, Darkseid

Superman over Zatanna Whatever your theory of Superman and magic, Clark Kent flies faster than the speed of sound. This is over pretty fast.

Kyle Rayner over Superboy There are a couple of these Superman Family vs. Green Lantern Corp fights. Conner is the least of the Superman derivatives. Kyle was briefly one of the Big 7. No contest.

Supergirl over Guy Gardner Versions matter, I guess. It is just impossible to vote against the woman that died fighting the Anti-Monitor when she is pitted against against a comic relief GL.

Hal Jordan over Martian Manhunter J’onn J’onzz has a swiss army knife set of powers, which kinda counts against him. He has abilities that it seems like he wouldn’t be overly great at any of them. It is like how a decathlete never medals in anything else. Hal Jordan, on the other hand, made the top of the pyramid with his ring and will power.

Flash over Power Girl I don’t really buy into the conceit that “Kryptonian Level” powers trump everything. For one thing, PG is the female counterpart to the less powerful Earth-Two Superman. For another, she is short-tempered and impulsive. She seems pretty beatable. The Flash, on the other hand, is the fastest man alive. He is endlessly inventive. That seems like enough to overcome the edge in pure power.

Wonder Woman over Swamp Thing This is another power vs. skill fight that I am giving the edge to skill. Swamp Thing is essentially a God. Diana isn’t on that level, but she is highly trained and pretty well accustomed to fighting Gods. Swampy is basically a peaceful, non-violent man.

Shazam over Sinestro Another magic-based character squaring of against a science villain. There is no clear edge in power and Sinestro is clearly the more skilled fighter. Still, Shazam has a huge edge in terms of heart and guts. I am calling this a Rocky II style mutual pummeling that is decided by who wants it more.

Darkseid over Aquaman Omega beams vs. vs. fish? I like Aquaman, but c’mon

Superman vs. Zatanna: Supes baby. Once the fight begins, his super speed takes her out before she can say a magic spell.
Superboy vs. Kyle Rayner: Going with the upset of Kyle Rayner. Kyle with his White Lantern power trumps Superboy
Supergirl vs. Guy Gardner: even with his Red Lantern powers, going with the Girl of Steel. Too strong, too fast for my favorite GL.
Hal Jordan vs. Martian Manhunter: Going with MM. He’s the only person with more powers than Superman.
Flash vs. Power Girl: I struggled with this one. The Flash is my favorite character and in a recent comic he recently figured out how to run on clouds, so PG’s flight power is negated. I’m giving this one to Flash.
Wonder Woman vs. Swamp Thing: gave this one to WW.
Shazam vs. Sinestro: going with an upset. I think Sinestro has this. The Shazam in the nu52 is too inexperienced to go against Sinestro.
Darkseid vs. Aquaman: tough call. I’m a huge Aquaman fan, but Darkseid consistently goes up against Supes all the time and that ends in a draw of some kind. However, all Aquaman has to do is get him in the water and he’s done for. Upset, Aquaman.

Wonder Woman has zero chances of beating Swamp Thing. She can’t kill him, she can’t maul him, she can’t even imprison him. Her lasso and sword are useless against an earth elemental. “Fighting skill” is meaningless when the opponent can be reborn at will, wherever he chooses, in whatever form he chooses. Zatanna might have a chance; Wonder Woman has none.

Superman IS too fast for Zatanna to do anything when the fight stars, but I think you folks are forgetting the prep time. Couldn’t Zatanna just magic up some kryptonite armor for herself with that 30 minutes?

Willie Everstop

March 22, 2014 at 4:08 pm

Zatanna could prepare an illusion spell that fakes her death when Superman grabs her mouth.

“etinotpyrK ot nrut epaC”

Yeah, I think people are really underestimating how much the prep time would shift things over to Zatanna. Her powerset, along with GL rings, is one of those undefined, “do what I can imagine” powers. The prep time gives a huge advantage to them. I mean, couldn’t she encase herself in kryptonite armor before the fight starts? Sprinkle kryptonite dust in a miles-wide swath around her? Flood the area she’s in with red sunlight way ahead of time? Stuff like that.

It gets even worse if she can do contingent magic. Can she? Saying backwards spells like, “The very instant the fight starts, before Superman even has a chance to move, he’s teleported into this kryptonite cell, under this red starlight.” That pretty much ends the fight the very instant it starts, super-speed be damned.

Zatanna might not be smart enough to think of that stuff, but that’s the thing with ill-defined Omni powers. At 30 minutes prior to the fight, can’t she backwards say, “Think of a way to win the fight against Superman.” Bam! Batman quality planning with no brain cells needed. That way, even if she’s not the sharpest pencil in the box, the magic does the heavy lifting. Even if she’s not that bright, she’s got 29 minutes to think those things up, or wish herself the knowledge to beat Supes.

I mean, am I overthinking this or something? I know we all love Superman, but the magic wish powers just seem unbeatable with prep time.

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