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Comic Book Six Degrees: Pinhead to Faceache

I name two comic book characters. You then have to connect the two using only shared appearances in comic books (official appearances in comics only – no cameos like Terry Austin sneaking Popeye into the background of a panel and no outside comic book appearances, like cartoons and the like). You have to do so using less than six comics total. Covers and pin-ups do not count – only actual appearances in the same comic book story (so it doesn’t count if they each appeared in separate stories inside the same anthology). Mythological characters, public domain characters (other than public domain comic book characters, they’re free game) and real people (by the way, unless a fake name is used for a real person, like Ronald Raygun or whatever, you can use the person even if they are not officially named in the comic) are unique to their own comic book appearances (so DC’s Thor is different than Marvel’s Thor, DC’s Ronald Reagan is different from Marvel’s Ronald Reagan, etc.). But a licensed character is the same in all of their various comic book companies (so the Marvel Red Sonja is the same as the Dynamite Red Sonja) and approved appearances by a real person can go across comic book companies, as well (so, for instance, you can use Marv Wolfman from his Teen Titans appearance to connect with Marv Wolfman in his Fantastic Four appearance – you just can’t use modern appearances by Jack Kirby from one company to connect to Jack Kirby appearances from Marvel Comics, since obviously Kirby can no longer give approval for his appearance). Approval tends to be the key.

Every week, whoever connects the two characters in the least amount of turns gets to pick the next week’s match (in the event of a tie, the winner is chosen randomly among the people who sent in challenges for next week). Last time was Domino Lady to Madame .44. Loki was the only one to connect the two in three moves. Here is how Loki connected the two…

NOTE: Before I begin, let me again request that when you folks send in your answers to please include your suggestion for next week if your answer is chosen. Oh, and it would be nice if you demonstrate that it IS possible to connect your two suggested choices. Thanks!

Domino Lady to Sherlock Holmes in Domino Lady /Sherlock Holmes
Sherlock Holmes to Batman in Detective Comics #572
Batman to Madame .44 in Infinite Crisis #6

Loki’s challenge is…

Pinhead to Faceache

E-mail me your answers at bcronin@comicbookresources.com. Do NOT post your answers in the comments section!

Whoever connects the two characters in the least amount of comics gets to pick the connection for next time around (I’ll pick a random winner in the event of a tie)!

Remember, only authorized appearances in comic books count (for instance, all the Marvel characters in Savage Dragon/Destroyer Duck do not count)!

NOTE: A reader asked me if a character appears in a comic but as a voice only, does that count? What do you all think? Vote in the comments – I’ll accept whatever the majority says.

17 Comments

As a public domain character, surely Moonstone’s Sherlock Holmes is not the same as DC’s Sherlock Holmes?

Eric, I’m pretty sure Sherlock Holmes only entered the public domain this year. Prior to that, companies had to pay a licensing fee.

I’ve got to say that I checked Infinite Crisis 6 and I couldn’t find Madame .44 in it when I attempted this one

LouReedRichards

July 8, 2014 at 8:05 am

If Pinhead is that sleepy he should just go to bed.

Sherlock Holmes was only very recently declared in the public domain. The Arthur Conan Doyle estate fought for YEARS to keep in under copyright arguing that Holmes should not be in the public domain until the last story passes out of copyright rather than the first.

It was a laughable arguement and finally got struck down a year or so ago.

So both the Holmes in Batman and in Domino Lady should have been licenced by the estate.

“I’ve got to say that I checked Infinite Crisis 6 and I couldn’t find Madame .44 in it when I attempted this one”
She’s on page 7, among the Western heroes seen on Earth-898.

Forget about Faceache! I want to find out if it is possible to connect Pinhead from Hellraiser with Zippy the Pinhead (http://www.zippythepinhead.com/) in six steps or less! :)

Actually, that would be way easier.

Just because I was pretty sure offhand how I could do it, I got from Pinhead to Zippy in four steps.

Thanks for the info about Holmes. I did not know that and will bear it in mind for future challenges. It suddenly makes several characters more easily accessible.

Actually, Eric was initially correct. Like the rest of you, I presumed the use of Sherlock Holmes was official but as it turns out, after getting out my copy of Detective Comics #572, he was NOT officially licensed. I don’t know about the other usages, but for Detective Comics #572, at least, he should be treated as a public domain character going forward.

Sorry guys. Like Brian and Kid Kyoto, I knew Holmes hadn’t been public domain for long, and so assumed that he was properly licensed out to both Moonstone and DC. I guess the companies assumed he wasn’t in copyright, as many of you did, and so didn’t bother getting permission (I’ve just checked and Moonstone credit other licensors for characters, but nobody for Holmes).

For what its worth to those who lost to my now invalidated route, I can do it in four too, and this one is definitely okay. Domino Lady to Spider in The Spider and Domino Lady, Spider to the Shadow in Masks #1, Shadow to Batman in Batman #253, and Batman to Madame .44 as before. So if anyone else did it in four, we’d have tied.

The characters *were* public domain since the ’70’s. The Doyle Estate’s argument was legally flawed, and so it was dismissed. Certain elements of the characters are not public domain, though. If the story mentions Watson’s second wife, then that would need to be the licensed version of the character.

I am not overly fussed, as these things are only for fun.

The use of Sherlock Holmes in Detective Comics reminds me a bit of the use of Sherlock Holmes in Star Trek: The Next Generation. When the writers first started using Holmes in the Holodeck, they were under the belief that Holmes was in the public domain. Eventually they were contacted by Doyles estate informing them this was not the case, so they stopped using the characters. Much later, they came up with the idea for the episode “Ship in a Bottle”, which used the Holmes characters, so they licensed the characters for use in that episode.

I did a legend on that story, Rob. It appears to be a lot more complicated than just “we didn’t know the character was in the public domain” – http://legendsrevealed.com/entertainment/2014/01/29/did-star-trek-the-next-generation-use-sherlock-holmes-characters-in-an-episode-not-knowing-that-the-characters-were-not-yet-in-the-public-domain/

Thanks for the link to your article Brian. I love your various “Urban Legends Revealed” articles, but somehow I never stumbled across that one.

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