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Comic Book Six Degrees: The Secret to Slimer

I name two comic book characters. You then have to connect the two using only shared appearances in comic books (official appearances in comics only – no cameos like Terry Austin sneaking Popeye into the background of a panel and no outside comic book appearances, like cartoons and the like). You have to do so using less than six comics total. Covers and pin-ups do not count – only actual appearances in the same comic book story (so it doesn’t count if they each appeared in separate stories inside the same anthology). Mythological characters, public domain characters (other than public domain comic book characters, they’re free game) and real people (by the way, unless a fake name is used for a real person, like Ronald Raygun or whatever, you can use the person even if they are not officially named in the comic) are unique to their own comic book appearances (so DC’s Thor is different than Marvel’s Thor, DC’s Ronald Reagan is different from Marvel’s Ronald Reagan, etc.). But a licensed character is the same in all of their various comic book companies (so the Marvel Red Sonja is the same as the Dynamite Red Sonja) and approved appearances by a real person can go across comic book companies, as well (so, for instance, you can use Marv Wolfman from his Teen Titans appearance to connect with Marv Wolfman in his Fantastic Four appearance – you just can’t use modern appearances by Jack Kirby from one company to connect to Jack Kirby appearances from Marvel Comics, since obviously Kirby can no longer give approval for his appearance). Approval tends to be the key.

Every week, whoever connects the two characters in the least amount of turns gets to pick the next week’s match (in the event of a tie, the winner is chosen randomly among the people who sent in challenges for next week). Last time was Miracleman to Stardust the Super Wizard. Paul L. was one of two people to get it in just two moves. Here is how Paul connected the two…

NOTE: Before I begin, let me again request that when you folks send in your answers to please include your suggestion for next week if your answer is chosen. Oh, and it would be nice if you demonstrate that it IS possible to connect your two suggested choices. Thanks!

MiracleMan was in Total Eclipse #3 with The Black Terror
The Black Terror was in The Next Issue Project AKA Fantastic Comics #24
with Stardust, in the story title Stardust together.

Paul’s challenge is…

The Secret to Slimer

E-mail me your answers at bcronin@comicbookresources.com. Do NOT post your answers in the comments section!

Whoever connects the two characters in the least amount of comics gets to pick the connection for next time around (I’ll pick a random winner in the event of a tie)!

Remember, only authorized appearances in comic books count (for instance, all the Marvel characters in Savage Dragon/Destroyer Duck do not count)!

7 Comments

Can we connect through comics that have only been solicited for a future date, not published yet?

It’s funny, I thought about the Black Terror connection when I proposed that challenge, but the Black Terror who appeared in Total Eclipse was a completely different Black Terror than the one who appears in any non-Eclipse comics. Different secret identity, no superpowers. Similar costume, though, clearly inspired by the original.

It’s been a while since I read the eclipse stuff. Thought he at least had the same name of Bob Benton. Yeah everything else was different, but he was either Licensed or Public Domian at the time so figured it counted. If everything was different and he just used the name Black Terror, kinda feel bad for using him.

Well, him using the name Black Terror wasn’t pure coincidence or anything–it was just one of those “bold new takes” on the character. It’s been a while since I read the Eclipse Black Terror miniseries, so I don’t remember whether this Black Terror, named Ryan Delveccio, explicitly based his name and costume on the Bob Benton version the way Barry Allen was inspired by Jay Garrick, but I think it was something like that. He lived on some dystopian mob-run world where Al Capone had been president instead of Kennedy, or something like that.

Incidentally, my own first and last connections when I thought through how to do it used the same comics, just through different characters and a couple more steps.

Hiya… long-time reader, rare participant. I thought of a connection of dubious eligibility and sent an email to Brian about it, but received no response. So I’ll post it here for people to chew on – Miracleman appears in Daredevils (UK) #7, a Captain Britain story authored by Alan Moore (it’s reprinted in the TPB). At the time of its writing, Alan Moore was writing ‘Marvelman,’ and this was a sort of cheeky easter-egg-nod. And at the time, of course, ‘Marvelman’ wasn’t owned by Marvel.

However, now that Marvelman/Miracleman is owned by the same publisher as Captain Britain, does that connection retroactively count?

Apologies if this has already been answered somewhere…

And feel free to delete this comment if it gives something away…

I think that’s likely more akin to the Popeye cameo mentioned in the rules.

the Daredevils situation in more detail

In 1954, MarvelMan was created as an imitation of the recently cancelled Captain Marvel
My understanding is that he qualifies as a distinct character and is not Captain Marvel (authorised or unauthorised).
Similarly the Squadron Supreme’s Hyperion is not Superman but is a separate character
and Multiversity’s Retaliators are not the Avengers

In 1982 Warrior relaunched MarvelMan with Alan Moore writing

later that same year Alan Moore joined Alan Davis on Captain Britain. Introducing the Fury and a graveyard of heroes killed by the Fury.
These heroes were loosely based on British comic heroes but with names changed to define them as separate characters as Marvel did not have the rights to them (except for Alan Davis’ Crusader)
Names on the gravestones included Roy Risk (Dan Dare), Android Andy (Robot Archie), the Iron Talon (the Steel Claw), the Arachnid (the Spider), Colonel Tusker (General Jumbo), Puppetman (Dollman) and MiracleMan (MarvelMan).
Captain Britain was then moved to a new comic the Daredevils along with Miller’s Daredevil and early Spiderman stories that were supposed to continue from where a recently cancelled series left off – except they had changed the last story to avoid a cliffhanger so, in fact, skipped 2 issues while (again) leaving the original XMen at the Factor 3 cliffhanger…but I digress)
Issue 7 of Daredevils (dated July 1983) featured a flashback showing some dead heroes including Miracleman (and Andoid Andy).

Meanwhile, Warrior stopped publishing MarvelMan over creative difficulties using letters from Marvel’s lawyers complaining about a MarvelMan special as an excuse. Warrior soon ceased publication.

The American printing rights went to Eclipse who published the series as MiracleMan in August 1985 – 2 years after a “MiracleMan” had appeared in DareDevils.

eventually the rights went to Marvel who are now printing the series as MiracleMan

and so we get questions such as
Were the Dead Heroes in Daredevils unlicensed appearances or variant/imitation characters (like MarvelMan) or was it a mixture?

Are Marvel Man and MiracleMan the same character and, if not, are the Eclipse comics invalid as they had the rights to MarvelMan not MiracleMan?

Is the Daredevils MiracleMan retrospectively the same as the one currently printed by Marvel or (is one) an elseworlds type variant?

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