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Comic Book Questions Answered – where I answer whatever questions you folks might have about comic books (feel free to e-mail questions to me at bcronin@comicbookresources.com). Here is a link to an archive of all the past questions that have been answered so far.

Today’s question comes from Lynn J. and, to an extent, Charlie E., as the main question is an old Lynn question about who currently knows Spider-Man’s secret identity, while Charlie wrote more recently specifically asking about Deadpool’s knowledge of Spider-Man’s identity. So let’s get on with it – who currently knows Spider-Man’s secret identity?

In Civil War #2 by Mark Millar, Steve McNiven and Dexter Vines, Spider-Man reveals his secret identity to the world…

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He soon regrets this and in the ensuing chaos, his beloved Aunt May is almost killed because he dodged a sniper’s bullet meant for him (sent by the Kingpin, who, now knowing who Spider-Man was, wanted revenge on him).

Spider-Man turned to Doctor Strange, Mister Fantastic and Iron Man to make the world forget his identity, and they worked out a scientific and magical spell that did so. In Amazing Spider-Man #641 by Joe Quesada and Paolo Rivera, we see the spell in action (this is a flashback – the spell went into action as of Amazing Spider-Man #546), as Peter decides to bring Mary Jane into the spell, as well, to make HER not forget his identity, as well…

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This move backfires when Mary Jane finds out and thinks about it and decides that, honestly, she would have preferred NOT remembering his identity, since there is so much stress on her being a part of this life. This leads to their break-up.

Okay, so Spider-Man and Mary Jane open up as the only people who know Spider-Man’s secret identity post-Amazing Spider-Man #546.

The deal with the spell is that if Spider-Man reveals his identity to someone, they’ll remember it, but they won’t be able to figure it out themselves without him revealing it.

In Amazing Spider-Man #591, by Dan Slott, Barry Kitson and Jesse Delperdang, the spell is first sort of revealed, and Spider-Man reveals his identity to the Fantastic Four…

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In New Avengers #51, Spider-Man reveals his identity to his New Avengers teammates, so Clint Barton, Mockingbird, Iron Fist, Spider-Woman, Carol Danvers, Wolverine, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Bucky Barnes and then Doctor Strange all learned his secret identity…

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Peter’s clone, Kaine, knows his identity since he’s, you know, his clone (and thus, is “unmasked”) and as a result of Kaine being “unmasked” to them, Kraven’s family perhaps knows Spider-Man’s secret identity, as well (Dan Slott says that he doesn’t think they do know, so we should likely defer to him on this, seeing as how he writes Amazing Spider-Man, after all)…

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(Spider-Girl, Madame Web and the current Madame Web, Julia Carpenter, all learn his secret identity at that time, as well)

That’s the same reason the Jackal learned Spider-Man’s identities. He had all of these clones of Spider-Man that are also clones of Peter Parker, so that worked as “unmasking” Spider-Man for him…

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Since Peter is walking around without his mask around Steve Rogers in Avenging Spider-Man #5, let’s assume Steve knows, as well…

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Things changed in Amazing Spider-Man #688 by Dan Slott and Humberto Ramos. Go to the next page to find out how!

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What about the rest of the Future Foundation kids? Why presume for Franklin and Valeria but not them?

Oh, this makes my head hurt. But we got Anna Maria Marconi, she makes everything better.

If you take out Bendis’ Avengers, the list makes more sense. Really, should Mockingbird, Luke Cage, Hawkeye, Jessica Jones, and Bucky (etc) know who Spider-Man really is?

I find I ignore more of Bendis’ work everyday.

It really sucks that Matt Murdock doesn’t know, and he can’t even see him and be revealed. They used to be real bros, or at least a big part of one of Spidey’s best stories is built around them, “Who Killed Jean DeWolfe”.

I can confirm that the Richards children do NOT know.
And I’d argue against the Kravens.
And now that the Ultimate Universe has gone away and that continuity has been folded in (via Miles), I’d argue against Mysterio knowing too.

Jeremy09- If Spider-Man’s identity is no longer mystically protected, I imagine that it’s only a matter of time before Matt Murdock knows. After all, he learned it purely through his heightened scenes the first time- there’s nothing stopping him from doing the same now, if he ever runs into Peter Parker (out of costume).

I think Brian Michael Bendis doesn’t know too… hehe

Because, as far as we know, the pact with Mephisto just erased Peter and MJ’s marriage, but not the facts in their chronology (except for Aunt May’s death, of course, and some details here and there). Therefore, Peter and MJ were a couple and lived together for long time, even not being married.

Soooo… Peter Parker was Stark’s employee in the past… and MJ, Aunt May and him lived at Avengers Tower for some time (heck, Aunt May even dated Jarvis!).

Okay, due to the “scientific-mystic spell”, nobody remembered Spider-Man’s secret identity anymore… BUT everyone still knew that Spider-Man revealed his identity in Civil War… people just didn’t remember WHO was him.

When Bendis introduced MJ in the current Invincible Iron Man series… it seems they never met before.

Okay, I can write a looooooong list of Bendis’s mistakes or lacks of memory. Brian (Cronin) has already remembered other case of such phenomenon today (involving Bucky in New Avengers).

This doesn’t imply that Stark should know Spider-Man’s secret identity, but he should know MJ.

By the way, this situation was shown soon after Brand New Day began, when Spider-Man and Iron Man teamed-up in Invincible Iron Man #7 (2009), when Tony Stark meets Peter Parker and REMEMBERS that Pete worked for him (this story was produced by Matt Fraction and Salvador Larroca).

Thus, if Stark knows Peter and remembers their professional relationship, he should know MJ, right?

Maybe this will be better explained in the next issues, but I doubt (I can’t forget Wolverine not recognizing Jessica Drew’s scent in New Avengers (first series) #1… and Bendis knew that Jessica was a PI in Madripoor [and then knew Wolverine] in the past [he used that fact in Alias] – and this was never explained…)

Other possible explanation for it would be some unknown consequences from the last Secret Wars… this may explain some pre-Secret Wars modifications that have disappeared now… or not?

It remains to be seen… or not…hehe

That’s superior Spider-Man #2
Not Amazing Spider-Man

Boy, Pete just has no idea how to keep a secret.

But notice that he still doesn’t tell Aunt May.

Julia Carpenter definitely knows as does Miguel O’Hara (Spider-Man 2099). The Kravens don’t know though.

Re: DD knowing Pete is Spidey-
One thing I’d like to see (assuming it hasn’t happened already; I’ve read a huge chunk of Marvel’s output in the last few decades, but not everything) is an exploration of how the friendship between Peter and Matt developed. After all, Peter was in high school when he met Matt for the first time, and Matt was already an adult (and a lawyer, IIRC). What do they have in common? What did they bond over? How did they get to be good friends? It just strikes me as this thing that exists, without the backstory to justify it. Don’t get me wrong-I like them being friends. Close buddies (in a different way than Peter and Johnny are), just show that the friendship has been earned.

This reminds me of another comic book question: How did Mysterio become not dead after dying in the pages of Kevin Smith’s run on Daredevil back in the day?

PM Agria — The Jessica Drew in New Avengers #1 was a Skrull. If anything, Wolverine should have been more suspicious when he didn’t recognize her scent.

The fact that Aunt May no longer knows is my biggest regret about the memory wipe (aside from, well, the fact that “One More Day” exists at all). The best thing that ever happened to May as a character was learning that Peter was Spidey and becoming a key confidante and supporter to him. Loved ones who are kept in the dark tend to be among the most superfluous characters in superhero stories, since they’re stuck in a limited range of stock roles they can play. It’s almost always an improvement when they find the truth and get to be properly in the loop. I wrote a Spidey prose novel (DROWNED IN THUNDER) set during the J. Michael Straczynski run, and getting to write a version of Aunt May that Peter confided in about all his Spider-Man history and secrets, getting to explore her unique perspective on all that, was one of the most enjoyable parts of the gig. So it saddens me that she’s still back in the not-knowing category after so many other characters (seriously, Mysterio??) have found out.

They’ve retconned it to a spell now? I thought he made a deal with the devil to have never moved out from his aunt and had sex and all that…

Later in Fraction’s Invincible Iron Man run, Tony scrambled his memories to keep them out of Norman Osborn’s hands, which could explain why he doesn’t remember Mary Jane.

@Ragnar, I think the theory is that even Spider-Man and Mary Jane don’t remember making the deal with Mephisto. They just remember the magic spell from Strange.

Dan Slott’s rule that when someone saw Peter unmasked they remembered their history together (like the FF above) was effectively ignored by Bendis – perhaps not deliberately, which would make that an editorial oversight – when Jessica Jones basically acted like she was seeing him for the first time ever (I think she too knew his identity before OMD but in New Avengers she didn’t seem to recall any of it). It’s more or less the same with Stark and MJ like PM Agria said.
Also, it is (incredibly) almost ten years since OMD, Marvel can revisit the story in some capacity, like Peter and MJ remembering their deal with Mephisto or something (there are so many ways to handle that and I’d love to see Slott do that, especially since he’s been with Spidey this entire decade). I don’t know what anyone else thinks on that but I believe it would bring some closure.

Although not explicitly stated, it is certainly obvious Hummingbird (Aracely Penalba) would (probably?) know Peter’s secret through Kaine.

She not only lived with Kaine in Houston, she also has some sort of psychic(soul?) connection with him thanks to that Aztec god stuff of hers. Some panels even suggest she was incapable of stopping HIS thoughts and emotions from entering her mind ALL THE TIME. Even when she wanted otherwise. Exceptions being when she was sleeping and having weird visions or when Kaine turns into The Other.

About the latter, I asked Yost in Twitter:

Me: “Completing wiki articles: how would you describe Aracely’s fire ability? “Invoking and hurtling (sacred?) fire”? Pyrokinesis?”

Yost: “it’s not really pyrokinesis, more the first one”.

Me: “Also, is her “connection” with Kaine still there? Or is it gone since the Other came up? Or does it change/evolves with t. events ISW?”

Yost: “her connection with Kaine is still there, but when the Other is dominant, she can’t read him”.

Also, in Scarlet Spider #12, she states she “knows everything there is to know about Kaine”. Not exactly a confirmation, but certainly relevant to the case at hand…

And finally, even if she didn’t know before, since Peter became a public figure with Parker Industries, the likelihood of her (and their friends Captain Wally, Annabelle Adams and Dr. Donald Meland) connecting the dots increases dramatically by virtue of knowing Kaine’s face.

However, as counterargument, she has proven time after time that she is not… That she has mind issues and she is very weird (probably in part due whatever produced her amnesia and the influence of god of War in her brain); even Yost revealed she does not remember most of her day. So, who knows?

Also, Meland actually met Peter in ASM Vol.3 #1 and guessed he was Kaine’s brother, but didn’t learn his name.

interesting the list is missing the big one who knows peter is spider man norman osborn aka old green goblin himself along with harry . not to mention that there was a spell used to put back spidermans i.d for thought that was the reason mary jane and peter besides giving aunt may more decades of life as an senior lady . the reason they made the deal with the devil aka mephisto

not to mention spider man now has another thing to share with batman in the dc universe his i.d does not stay secret as peter parker for long.

Mysterio reappeared in Spider-Man/Deadpool #2, but I don’t know if he remembered Peter Parker was Spider-Man (and don’t know if, in case he really remembered it, he will still remember it after what happened to him in said issue).

Does Spider-Man 2099 know, or is he covered in alternate Spider-Men?

Civil War #2 was when I realized Marvel just didn’t care anymore. Theycould of come up with something big for everyone finding out who Spider-man was. Something dramatic and plausible with a big planned-out story to go with it, but they didn’t even try.

In the current volume of Amazing Spider-Man, isn’t it revealed that Peter has shared his identity with S.H.I.E.L.D. types like Fury jr., Mockingbird and such?

I would put Aracely (and Donald, his husband Wally and maybe Annabelle) under “People who are very likely to know, but we don’t have cconfirmation yet” category.

MarioHerald here does a good job explaining why.

But se are missing at least another character: Miles’s friend Ganke.

Wait, there is a Spider-Girl in current continuity?

I can confirm that the Richards children do NOT know.
And I’d argue against the Kravens.
And now that the Ultimate Universe has gone away and that continuity has been folded in (via Miles), I’d argue against Mysterio knowing too.

Thanks, Dan, I’ve updated accordingly!

Does Spider-Man 2099 know, or is he covered in alternate Spider-Men?

I was counting him under alternate Spider-Men, but I’ll give him his own slot for ya! :)

Luis Dantis, yes, Spider-Girl is Anya Corazon. She was Jessica Drew’s sidekick for a while, then after Spider-Verse became a protector of the web along with Spider-UK. After Secret Wars they expanded into a full team called the Web Warriors.

Anon (February 21, 2016, 11:28 am), that IS Amazing Spider-Man 2, not Superior.

“wheat cakes. ” not flapjacks. They screwed up their own self referential joke.

Tony –

I always thought DD and Spidey’s friendship was natural because, at the time, they were the only two people in that line of work in New York City – i.e. urban vigilantes. There were other heroes with their power level, like Captain America and Hawkeye, but they were Avengers and tackled more cosmic stuff or spy stuff. DD and Spidey were the only ones fighting street crime.

Christopher L. Bennett –

Hell, yeah.

One of the best things in the JMS era was Aunt May. I always hate it when superheroes keep the people closest to them in the dark. Cheap drama, overused, cliched, and a bad message to send. May Parker was so much more interesting as a confidante.

Peter Parker is Spider-Man?????

You mean to tell me that Tim Harrison (a.k.a., “The Kid Who Collects Spider-Man”) doesn’t know anymore????

I think the real relationship is between Spider-Man and Daredevil more than between Peter Parker and Matt Murdock. Just my feel of it.

Like you said, anyone from the ultimate universe would know it, so their reed Richards would know it. He is in the marvel u now, right?

Boy, that Pete and Cap pick sure looks a bit yaoi, doesn’t it? Not that I’m complaining.

@Tony Snark: I hate to break it to you, but the Kid Who Collects Spider-Man is dead. That’s kinda the point of the story.

I think Hobie Brown, the Prowler, knows because he’s been standing in for Peter as Spider-Man in the current series.

Like you said, anyone from the ultimate universe would know it, so their reed Richards would know it. He is in the marvel u now, right?

I think the argument is that the merger wiped out a lot of their past history.

I think Hobie Brown, the Prowler, knows because he’s been standing in for Peter as Spider-Man in the current series.

He doesn’t know Spidey’s identity. Peter just told him that he needs Prowler to fill in for Spidey when Spidey is working as Peter’s bodyguard overseas.

Boy, that Pete and Cap pick sure looks a bit yaoi, doesn’t it? Not that I’m complaining.

It’s a really great story with Cap and Spidey bonding over their shared experiences in high school.

In the current volume of Amazing Spider-Man, isn’t it revealed that Peter has shared his identity with S.H.I.E.L.D. types like Fury jr., Mockingbird and such?

Mockingbird was one of the Avengers teammates he revealed his identity to. But yes, in Amazing Spider-Man #1 it does seem like it is implied that Nick Fury (Jr.) knows his identity. Maybe Dan Slott can shed some light on whether that is the case.

As an old-time, old-school Spider-man, it feels definitely weird that Norman Osborn (and Harry Osborn) and Venom do not know. There were the most interesting villains because they knew that Peter is Spider-man. Also I agree with the other commenters who mentioned that Aunt May should know the secret. Otherwise, the character is just blunt…not even that strange marriage to JJJ sr. could salvage it.

Fisk –

It really seems like May’s marriage was a last ditch attempt to rescue her from being a purely comic relief character.

When was the last time a subplot about hiding your identity from your loved ones was used in an engaging fashion in superhero stories? I remember that Astro City story with Atomicus, that was published more than 10 years ago, and even THAT was a send-up of the whole idea.

It’s just one of those things that some creators return to because it’s the traditional status quo, but it’s so overused by now. Easily the weakest part of the Flash TV show was when they did the whole song and dance about Barry not telling Iris.

Daredevil knows.

In reading all this I just realized that Venom\Flash Thompson should know who Spidey is.
After all the symbiote bonded with Superior Spider-Man, and in doing so it should have found out his identity. Such knowledge should be available to Flash.

Still one could argue the symbiote is keeping it for itself…

Also (sorry for double posting, but I just remembered it), Wilson Fisk a.k.a. Kingpin knows Spider-Man identity from the GN Spider-Man Family Business.
I’m not sure if that story is in continuity and I still have to read it properly.

Liz Day –

Yeah, it really does. Steve and Peter really do look like they’re about to kiss passionately.

So, Marvel went to the trouble of putting Spidey’s identity back in the bag, but wound up with the number of people knowing now being higher than the number of people who knew before Civil War? Or do I have my numbers off?

“How did Mysterio become not dead after dying in the pages of Kevin Smith’s run on Daredevil back in the day?”

It wasn’t much later; I believe John Byrne made a point of explicitly rejecting it. It’s barely even a retcon, it’s just Mysterio saying “You really believed that?” or something.

However, years later, when Kevin Smith finished his Spider-Man limited series, he put something in there about how Mysterio is definitely dead and now there’s a new one. I don’t think anybody followed up on that.

“However, years later, when Kevin Smith finished his Spider-Man limited series, he put something in there about how Mysterio is definitely dead and now there’s a new one. I don’t think anybody followed up on that.”

Peter David played around with this in Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man with three Mysterios running around with the original having come back from the dead with half his head gone.

thanks all

“It’s a really great story with Cap and Spidey bonding over their shared experiences in high school.”

The story bugged me. I think it ignored the fact that Peter had worked as a science teacher and a scientist, had Peter ready to throw his microscope away, and it ignored Steve’s time as a professional artist. By Marvel time this was what, maybe two years after he was the artist of the Captain America comic, which followed his career as a freelance artist in advertising.

Is it safe for Danielle Cage to know that Peter Parker is Spider-Man? ;)

@MarioHerald: There’s no way HummingBird knows because she probably never knew the secret before Dr. Strange’s spell.

Add me to the group that thinks May should know. It was good developement that she found out like she did and when this was changed it just was another crappy thing like taking the marriage away. I always hate when someone gets in charge and wants to bring a character back to when they read it, in this case Quesadaand company with spidy or Jones et all at dc with bringing back Hal Jordan ahd Barry Allan. Always stunk as spoiled children whining and getting what they want… sorry for the grumpy old man bit. Lol

So, Marvel went to the trouble of putting Spidey’s identity back in the bag, but wound up with the number of people knowing now being higher than the number of people who knew before Civil War? Or do I have my numbers off?

I think your numbers are off. Most of the people mentioned already knew Pre-Civil War, plus a chunk of people more (Iron Man, Norman and Harry Osborn, Eddie Brock, Aunt May, plus others).

Also (sorry for double posting, but I just remembered it), Wilson Fisk a.k.a. Kingpin knows Spider-Man identity from the GN Spider-Man Family Business.
I’m not sure if that story is in continuity and I still have to read it properly.

Kingpin DOES learn Peter is Spider-Man in that comic, but by the end of the story, he forgets it due to Mentallo frying his (and all of his guards, who also learned Spider-Man’s identity) brain, shorting out all of his short term memory.

The best line about Myserio’s death was in one Spidey mini-series where they’re trying to figure out if it’s the original mysterio or not, and someone suggests he’s too unimportant to care who’s under the fish bowl.

So ten years later, Civil War, the gift that is still giving. Like a proctological exam.

@Josh B. I never noticed that. Bendis. *Slaps head*

Wasn’t that the whole point to Mysterio? He was an overlooked nobody, jealous of those who go the fame while he did all the work? Isn’t his first reveal one of those “I have no idea who this guy is.” Or was that just Electro?

This is a really dumb plot point to me. I dunno, it’s just so contrived, even for comic standards. I think it would’ve been better if it was just that anyone who saw Peter unmask remembered, straight-up. Like with what was done with Wally West, when something similar happened to him.

I don’t think Deadpool necessarily doesn’t know. He could be trolling. Of all characters, I kinda want him to remember the most, if only so he can make One More Day jokes.

I was wondering this recently, as I reread an issue of Mark Waid’s Daredevil run, and I guess Matt doesn’t know. That a shame. But I guess now Peter doesn’t know Matt’s either, so… yay?

I don’t think the Ultimate universe being destroyed means Mysterio forgot. Where’s the logic in that? If he’s back in 616, he just back. Why would he not know if the Ultimate U was destroyed? Heck, Miles is from the Ultimate U and remembered in Secret Wars. Seriously, makes no sense for Mysterio not to remember.

Guys. This is an insane amount of research. Bless you all.

Thanks for reminding me why I haven’t bought a Marvel book for over a decade. What a mess…

I can accept that Tony Stark doesn’t remember MJ from her and Peter’s time in Avengers Tower, due to the memory reset he underwent. I particularly liked Dan Slott’s explanation for them being at Avengers Tower – that Peter was a part of the team that developed the Iron Spider armor and received, along with his salary, living quarters as well.

@Dan Slott:

The Mysterio thing doesn’t make sense. He knew in the Ultimate Universe and now he’s one of the few people who made the trip over to the reconstructed 616 universe. Everyone with a few exceptions (T’Challa and according to Bendis Miles) remembers their whole histories but are merely a bit fuzzy on details specifically revolving around the incursions and Battleworld.

Because of this Mysterio would still remember who Peter was because he’d remember still being in the Ultimate Universe or else interacting with it remotely from the 616 universe.

Of course really with the spell broken it doesn’t make sense for anyone who originally knew from the unmasking or beforehand to not know. Norman Osborn for instance should be able to very easily reconstruct who Spider-Man is from the gaps in his memories and given his beef with Spidey it’d be a top priority for him.

Similarly Aunt May not knowing is illogical as she would remember living in Avengers tower with Peter and year she knew he was Spider-Man in general.

Felicia absolutely would be able to rediscover the truth even without meaning to.

Carnage and Eddie Brock could feasibly still not remember because Carnage was never on Earth when the unmasking happened and Brock had memory problems about the identity even before the unmasking.

This is to say nothing about how the spell was supposed to erase knowledge and evidence about Peter’s identity alone, not anything to do with MJ or Aunt May. As far as the world was concerned they discovered who Spider-Man was but forgot that piece of info but they should still remember he was married to Mary Jane Watson and she and Aunt May were fugitives from the law.

Hi.
For the person who asked about why Flash/Venom doesn’t know AFTER the Symbiote attacked to Superior Spider-Man– that was actually covered in that story. The 2 conflicting brain patterns of Doc Ock and Peter (who was clearly back by the end of that story) caused “interference” and confused the symbiote. It couldn’t read Ock/Peter that way and retain the memory.

Al,
Mysterio (possibly) not knowing works in that the only person we’ve really seen come back through the Ultimate Universe was Miles. And the “rules” are kind of fuzzy there. His friends and family are around (and, in one case, back alive!). This wasn’t a “clean” switch from universe to universe.

With Norman you’re applying “logic” to fixes that literally involve magic. I understand WANTING Norman to know. And Norman FEELS like he should. For him, it’s an annoying itch that he can’t scratch. But if it doesn’t work for Norman, then you’re saying that none of Doctor Strange’s spells should work on anything. If Earth’s Sorceror Supreme sets it up so you can’t remember, you don’t. The spell isn’t “broken” in as much as it’s damaged.

Aunt May remember living in Avengers Tower– that was ALSO Stark tower– when Peter was working for Stark. That still holds and that gives her enough wiggle room.

It doesn’t matter if Felicia “would be able to”. She hasn’t. That’s all that counts.

Aunt May, MJ, and Peter could have been fugitives from the law because they were aiding and abetting Spider-Man (Peter’s friend).

Comic book logic works if you want it to work. It’s that way with flying, eye beams, and traveling from planet to planet in a space ship. And it’s that way for whether or not someone knows a hero’s secret identity. If you pull at ANY thread in a comic hard enough, the whole tapestry comes apart. :)

I’m still against Mysterio not remembering. I mean, the Squadron Supreme remember stuff from their Earths don’t they? It’s not like the destruction of a universe means anything and everything from that universe is also destroyed, right?

Well, whatever. It’s not like Mysterio’s gonna show up in the Spidey books any time soon. I don’t even know what’s up with him anymore. While I think it’d be a cop-out for Mysterio not to remember, this entire idea of people forgetting Peter’s identity is kind of a cop-out.

Kraven knows as of Grim Hunt. He confirmed it when he appeared in Scarlet Spider.

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